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  1. #531
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    ReplicaX's Avatar
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    Methos Ranperre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio View Post
    Amen! This literally right here is the damn truth. People never complained about endgame being anything in FFXI. There was SO much to do regardless of that content.
    Meh, for a US player it wasn't an issue due to the leveling curves and horizontal progression which made older content last longer. For many US players it took about a year to reach their 1st 75. When they did, many of us early birds had already started and figured out Sky God strats. Dynamis can fall under it as well, many of us spent so many hrs figuring out pull and boss strats that made life easier for others just hitting 75. Back then the Japanese really didn't share much info at all and they had earlier access to the content.

    Different times and a different approach.
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  2. #532
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    I just did T6 again, and Im not sure why people keep saying you can just attack through blighted now, because I tried and 3 of us went from full to death in an instant.
    Haven't tried it myself yet, but if people have been swallow'd before Blighted then I imagine it hits a bit harder. Also if you really want to prevent the damage, Adlo + Sacred Soil would make it even more trivial. But since the general consensus is that you can attack during Blighted, then I think there's something inconsistent about your attempts.
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  3. #533
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    I ate an entire bag of popcorn. This thread is so entertaining!

    See you guys when FCoB gets nerfed!
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  4. #534
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Two food for thought items:

    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    Bingo! That is why they come out with so much hate. The OP is a self-professed clear seller. SE knows that making the game more accessible and more inclusive is the right thing. If they don't want these nerfs, all the people need to do is be more willing to teach newer players how to clear them. Join those learning parties and help them clear, so to SE it looks like people are clearing at a reasonable pace. If that is maintained SE will not make the adjustments.
    You keep speaking about being inclusive about everything but by your own reckoning, you would rather exclude all those "elitest clear selling trolls" from the entire game if you could.

    ...think about that, please.

    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    I cleared T7 a month ago and then my static fell apart. I'm with a new static now, but they just want to work on T9. I got more experience in T9 than I do in T8 which is kind of funny. But when I tried to help people with T7, I spent more time waiting on the PF, and sometimes never even get going. And since I main a SMN, so I almost always get stuck with kite duty. These adjustments hopefully will make T7 more widely available for everyone and I would be able to help in more ways than just kite duty.
    I would recommend instead of just you ALONE helping people, you should consider getting a small group of people to go and help people. Having three people (one tank, one healer, one DPS or two tanks and one healer) goes a long way at getting PFs filled faster. If you can get a small AND core group together to help, I'm pretty sure you'll get more bites then waiting on hours at end and be able to facilitate more people.
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  5. #535
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    Rori Uguu
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    All this could have been avoided if they had implemented different difficulties right from the start, I think WoW does something similar though I don't really know the specifics, each with their own lockout.

    Easy/Story difficulty: echo +20-30% and current nerfs, no drops whatsoever, possibly exclude the last turn from this tier.
    Normal: no echo but current nerfs, only one chest per turn, possibly no gear enhancing items whatsoever.
    Hard: no echo, same mechanics as before the nerfs, same amount of drops as we have now.
    Savage: no echo, same mechanics as current Savage, possibly 3 chests per turn and/or one extra gear enhancing item.

    Maybe Heavensward could do something like this, and also maybe have more than one relevant piece of endgame content.
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  6. #536
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    I like Rori's idea!
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  7. #537
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
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    I would recommend instead of just you ALONE helping people, you should consider getting a small group of people to go and help people. Having three people (one tank, one healer, one DPS or two tanks and one healer) goes a long way at getting PFs filled faster....
    Let them eat cake too. Beautiful. I would love to be able to do that, but I can't even get people agree here to just take the attitude to help people once in a while when they can, hardly require them to do anything but change the outlook. How do you suppose I can round up people to join to learning PFs? Those tanks and healers are always in demand and never have enough around. I switch to healing a lot of the times just so I can fill the healer spot and help people make a go at it, but it T7 they are missing the kiter and I get stuck kiting. Heck I've even tanked T7 when I know I am a terrible tank, but they were short a tank, and the renauds were running lose and people were being stoned all over the place.
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  8. #538
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    Heck I've even tanked T7 when I know I am a terrible tank, but they were short a tank, and the renauds were running lose and people were being stoned all over the place.
    Shoulda just had em put you as MT. Even the worst tank could MT T7 in their sleep.
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  9. #539
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    Little Mewmew
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    Yep... I saw the nerfs, and heard about them. Makes me sad, it wasn't even that hard. Just took learning the fight, and a little bit of patience. Heck several people in our static had full time jobs, we only were able to run 2 hours a day for 3 days out of the week and we made it to T9 easy.

    Just took A LOT of wipes, learning and understanding mechanics.

    Outright invalidating the mechanics really ruins the fight. Makes me sad newbies will continue to be softened and when they try to do the latest content they'll get utterly owned because the difficulty curve just shot up a ton.

    Echo alone would have been enough, these nerfs are overkill.

    I agree it's hard to get a group for t9 currently which sucks but it's not impossible to learn. If you try hard enough and you go in thinking "I know I suck but I will get better" you can accomplish anything.

    Accept that you fail at your job, accept that you aren't as good at the game as you think you are. And then you can become so much greater than you could have ever imagined.

    It just takes patience and hard work.
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  10. #540
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    Reimu Hakurei
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    things
    Oh dear, she's back.

    I can't wait for her to stop replying in this thread as soon as she gets cornered, as happened here:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...at-T5%21/page8

    Going to be fun
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