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  1. #41
    Player Kaze3434's Avatar
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    Rumina Asou
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    Quote Originally Posted by PotatoTree View Post
    They'll have no trouble with it when they get gear from T6-8, plus poetic gear.

    Honestly if I joined some random mmorpg, I wouldn't care at all what the pro people do or think. All I would care about is my gear, my runs, and my experience. There should always be something for the elitists (savage, FCoB) but outside of that it should be fair game to the casuals.
    kinda funny how sol gear did almost nothing to help people get past T5.
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  2. #42
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    Supply Demand
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    The only regrets I have about echo and nerfs are my personal regrets that my static wasn't able to clear T9 despite our efforts before echo. Has nothing to do with SE or them changing the game, it feels like a defeat though, kinda sad.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehayte View Post
    The only regrets I have about echo and nerfs are my personal regrets that my static wasn't able to clear T9 despite our efforts before echo. Has nothing to do with SE or them changing the game, it feels like a defeat though, kinda sad.
    click echo off. Tadaa!! nothing changed from prior to 2.41
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    click echo off. Tadaa!! nothing changed from prior to 2.41
    Except..you know...the mechanic changes. T9 you can click echo off, but there's been some slight changes. (It won't matter much though if you were already hitting a wall, it could also just be SE toning down damage a slight bit, but if you couldn't get past T9 before, you magically won't now.)
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    click echo off. Tadaa!! nothing changed from prior to 2.41
    Did you read the patch notes? o_o

    Edit: Oh, my mistake. T9. Haven't been in yet but if there's been no changes then this is true.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Except..you know...the mechanic changes. T9 you can click echo off, but there's been some slight changes. (It won't matter much though if you were already hitting a wall, it could also just be SE toning down damage a slight bit, but if you couldn't get past T9 before, you magically won't now.)
    you could read the patch notes before saying something wrong. T9.

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...54908abc185342
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    Funny, the word that comes to my mind for people who want Coil to remain as is (even though Savage mode is untouched) is "entitled", too.
    The thing is, there is a difference. It is entitlement to expect the same rewards for less effort. Those not wanting it to be nerfed expect you to work just as hard for the things they did(gear or clear). That's not entitlement, its fairness.

    To those that say we all pay the same amount for the game we should all have the same access, you do. If your knowledge, perseverance, and execution are up to par. Its like saying everyone pays the same for college, we should all get degrees regardless. But I garauntee that not everyone will get that degree. Why, because they don't have the knowledge, the preseverence, or are unable to execute. Would you want a college dropout in the same job pool as you as a engineer? or a doctor?
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    you could read the patch notes before saying something wrong. T9.
    Just did T9 and some damage felt like it was a bit less hence "slight bit", you do realize SE won't always write out everything in patch notes, right? They didn't state exactly how much in T6-7 the damage was reduced when before BB was instant kill. I already read them, thanks though.

    So if nothing changed, then I guess everyone magically got better without echo buff being on
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  9. #49
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    Edward Volcdegen
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    Tupsi, are you factoring in you have Poetic gear now?
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eardstapa View Post
    Tupsi, are you factoring in you have Poetic gear now?
    Yep. Comparing it from yesterday (same gear) to what I did today. I always like testing when the echo changes come in to see if SE ninjas in things and to me it just felt like some abilities did a lil less than they used to. That's why I said regardless if there were any changes, if you couldn't deal with mechanics before you won't now no matter what they do (or don't do) to the turns.
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