So Second Coil has been destroyed

[Snugglebutt]

Nerfs weren't required. Hello kitty island adventure is more to some of these players skill level

Maybe they could nerf it to such an extent that all the arrogant elitists leave the game at which time they bump it back up to more reasonable levels when they are gone. The community would be a hell of a lot happier and peaceful when such people are gone. The elitist part of this community is tiny compared to the majority who are not, SE would thrive with or without them.

The content is around 9 months old, you have both savage mode coils and final coils to keep the elitists busy and challenged. SE are doing the right thing making very old content easier for people to catch up on. People who still want the more extreme challenges can opt for savage or final coils, the only reason anyone would be against this is if damages their clear selling or they are simply egotistical, arrogant or elitist trying to keep people from doing something they have long since potentially surpassed. If you have not cleared it and want the challenge you still have that in the other mode and in the later coils.

[SupaFly1983]

Maybe they could nerf it to such an extent that all you arrogant elitists leave the game at which time they bump it back up to more reasonable levels when your gone.

And perhaps they could keep the content challenging so all you filthy casuals leave and I have decent skilled players to progress with, instead of wiping in a turn 8 PF because the bard was too busy drawing notice me senpai pictures for reddit and not knowing what a tower is.

[Kiroh]

And perhaps they could keep the content challenging so all you filthy casuals leave and I have decent skilled players to progress with, instead of wiping in a turn 8 PF because the bard was too busy drawing notice me senpai pictures for reddit and not knowing what a tower is.

[Gralna]

And perhaps they could keep the content challenging so all you filthy casuals leave and I have decent skilled players to progress with, instead of wiping in a turn 8 PF because the bard was too busy drawing notice me senpai pictures for reddit and not knowing what a tower is.

Great business strategy, purposly design game, to drive away 90% of your playerbase.

[Snugglebutt]

And perhaps they could keep the content challenging so all you filthy casuals leave and I have decent skilled players to progress with, instead of wiping in a turn 8 PF because the bard was too busy drawing notice me senpai pictures for reddit and not knowing what a tower is.

If the so called 'filthy casuals' as you put it left this game it would go out of business. The egotists are a tiny fraction of FFXIV subscribers, out of the two SE would do better without them than without the casuals. Once again however I feel the need to point out to the elitists whiners on this forum that they have not lost out as they still have a non-nerfed T9 (minus the echo) and untouched savage mode plus the actual current endgame raid content of final coils.

[Leadleaf]

And perhaps they could keep the content challenging so all you filthy casuals leave and I have decent skilled players to progress with, instead of wiping in a turn 8 PF because the bard was too busy drawing notice me senpai pictures for reddit and not knowing what a tower is.

There went my coffee, gg.

[Ramesses]

Maybe they could nerf it to such an extent that all you arrogant elitists leave the game at which time they bump it back up to more reasonable levels when your gone.

The content is around 9 months old, you have both savage mode coils and final coils to keep you elitists busy and challenged. SE are doing the right thing making very old content easier for people to catch up on. People who still want the more extreme challenges can opt for savage or final coils, the only reason anyone would be against this is if damages their clear selling or they are simply egotistical, arrogant or elitist trying to keep people from doing something they have long since potentially surpassed. If you have not cleared it and want the challenge you still have that in the other mode and in the later coils.

Brilliantly said, Snuggle... I dont think I could have said it better. +1 to you.

To the pathetic arrogant elitists who are irritated because more people can now have a chance at clearing content... (and thus, diminishing your precious revenues from selling clears)... you are either childishly delusional or too wrapped up in your perceptions of grandiosity not to have seen this coming.

Allow me to shatter your bubble even further: In gaming concepts, there is a very important spectrum element called "FLOW"... or what some game designers call "Cognitive Flow". Every excellent game needs it as a solid way to respond to players general level of skills or else they lose players. FFXIV is no different.

The basic psychology behind this is simply that if a game is too hard, people become frustrated and leave... and if its too easy, people get bored and also leave. Thus the "Flow" is that comfort region where you find your skill niche and are happy to continue playing the game.

In FFXIV, the timing for easing the difficulty for Second Coil was due... and the Devs know this very well; which is why I totally support this move. Actually, I even think it should have been implemented since when 2.4 launched but thats also debatable. Less than 5% of the player base has cleared Second Coil and thus, their Flow is to have the challenges of Final Coil and Second Coil Savage Mode. For the remaining majority of the players base, their Flow is to challenge Second Coil (at least until Crystal Tower stage three emerges in 2.5).

This helps to maintain the player base and establishes the groundword for how to help even newer players achieve progression... emphasis on the word "helps" because there are still many other factors at play; but that's another topic entirely.

So yeah Elitists... quit yammering and whining just because more players now have a chance at getting that High Allagan loot you've been soooooooo proud of obtanining... (if that loot is what defines you in the game then you've missed the point completely). At the end of the day, SE needs to constantly expand player numbers and show a bank balance thats in the black... get with the program.

[Rieze_Xeero]

So yeah Elitists... quit yammering and whining just because more players now have a chance at getting that High Allagan loot you've been soooooooo proud of obtanining... (if that loot is what defines you in the game then you've missed the point completely). At the end of the day, SE needs to constantly expand player numbers and show a bank balance thats in the black... get with the program.

Well said. We all want challenges hence Fcob + We all want this game to last long hence change outdated content for casuals = longer game lifespan

[Ramesses]

Well said. We all want challenges hence Fcob + We all want this game to last long hence change outdated content for casuals = longer game lifespan

Indeed, indeed... the whiners just whinge because they're so immersed in themselves that they have no understanding of the much bigger picture.