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    NyarukoW's Avatar
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    Ai Hana
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    Faerie
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    ...Repeating yourself over and over won't suddenly make people change their minds or rewrite how society works...
    Maybe I am not very good at it, but this is the fundamental core of marketing and advertising. They repeat the same message however cleverly packaged and they are good at changing the packaging but they persist at it and they do change minds and they do work. The only that doesn't work is to stay silent and get overran.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    I defend myself. I'm a raider and I fall into the generalizations made in this thread...
    Really all this pretense at false self-indignation. No one is accusing your of anything, yet you take it so personally, which means you are unable to see thing objectively and from a bigger picture.

    Quote Originally Posted by HakuroDK View Post
    The frustration from one side of the argument comes from the fact that a lot of people can't handle wiping on the same raid over and over. Wiping once is expected, but wiping 20 times just trying to get a single clear is absolutely demoralizing and many people cannot find a static because people have since moved on...
    Creating, finding, and maintaining a static is not easy. People with experience knows that to do T6-T9 you will probably need north for 200 wipes combined. This a substantial time demand, and the default expectation is not to clear any time soon, and empathize from having that understanding. Instead of empathy we see accusation about how everyone else that does have a clear as being "lazy", "spoonfed", "want carries", etc. which is all blatant false accusations about the vast majority of the player base. If they don't have the time to help, they do not have to, but they do not need to insult the other players like we see in this thread and many others.
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    Last edited by NyarukoW; 11-15-2014 at 02:30 AM.