Is it possible that Ninja will do more dps than Monk?

[Gralna]

Eh what? MNK and DRG have great AoE Capabilities, sure it isn't as good as BLM or BRD but a MNK/DRG won't be far behind if they know how to use their skills properly.

While I agree that DRG has decent aoe capabilities, MNK has by far the worst of all the dps, sure they can pop PB and have 10 seconds of rockbreaker spam with howling fist thrown in, but after that they can only use rockbreaker at end of every combo. On speedruns, I'm lucky if I can pop PB every 3rd-4th pull.

Arm the the destroyer does laughable dmg, you'd need 10+ mobs you're hitting with it to excuse the dps lost from just using single target skills for first two skills of combo. Not to mention you again only get to use it every 3rd move in combo chain if you dont want to lose your stacks, which would lower your dps even more.

[Pylfer]

Their ability to increase party damage on the mob by 10% will make them highly desirable, regardless.

This. Everything this. If NIN are not as high DPS as MNK, they will be highly sought after for their +10% damage buff as it happens every 60 seconds. They will be able to benefit from all of their high damage abilities and keep the MNKs TP up through the use of Goad. Depending on how strong Goad is, they may even replace BRD in some instances... cause while Foes is great for casters, Trick Attack is AMAZEBALLS for literally everyone in the party (tanks, heals, and DPS).

[Dreklore]

Lets put it this way it depends on the GCD of the ninja ability because most ability require at least 2 hand signs to activate that would be if both GCD was 2 sec for examples would have to damage 2x to one monk GCD but I digress why would you worry about doing more DPS then another class the point at the moment is to learn to maximise DPS for a ninja vs other ninjas before you think about comparing DPS to other DPS classis.

[Kripp]

Their ability to increase party damage on the mob by 10% will make them highly desirable, regardless.

Having the ability to increase party damage on the mob by 10% wont that make them so desirable that it will make people want to have a ninja in a static rather than a dragoon? So it seems like dragoons may be thrown to the side and not needed.

[zar]

Having the ability to increase party damage on the mob by 10% wont that make them so desirable that it will make people want to have a ninja in a static rather than a dragoon? So it seems like dragoons may be thrown to the side and not needed.

Their damage could be crap and the 10% buff makes up for it.

[Ryans]

The gap between monk and dragoon isn't that big in the practical sense. T8 is one of the few fights that allows for monk to go uninterrupted and a dragoon is only 30-40 dps behind it. Anything else and they are within 15. I imagine Ninja will be within the same range of damage. As long as it isn't 10% lower than the other melee it won't matter. None of the fights require max ilvl and perfect player skill to beat.

[Pylfer]

Having the ability to increase party damage on the mob by 10% wont that make them so desirable that it will make people want to have a ninja in a static rather than a dragoon? So it seems like dragoons may be thrown to the side and not needed.

Depends on the damage they deal. If it's laughable (and they turn in more a support class relying on TA and Goad and what not) then there may still be reason to take a DRG for the consistent spike damage. However, if they can maintain 350+ DPS average in fights like T8 may give them an edge because even though there is a loss of about 50-100 DPS AVG from dropping the DRG, you'll make that up with the other DPS, yourself, the tanks, and the healers when they DPS for that brief period, more than enough damage to compensate for it.

[Altijacek]

Also dragoon is getting buffed this patch, probably because of ninja.

[Kamifubuki-Yoakesetsuri]

They'll have the same derp as a Dragoon, so no I don't think they will beat Monks :P. Monks have to work the hardest so hopefully they will remain king.

I can play monk in my sleep the only challenge about a monk is maintaining their derp stacks. DRGs have the more complex rotations and if you screw up even nce you have start that **** all over.

[Amatsuhira]

Maybe for some but they will never out dps me.