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    Player
    Zanmato's Avatar
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    Saizou Kirigakure
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    Mateus
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    Rogue Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Pylfer View Post
    I assume the limiting factor is going to be their weapons have shit Raw damage to compensate for combo finishers with 320 POT, Kiss of the Wasp/Viper, B4B, Internal, +15% ATKSPD and the +10% damage.
    Yeah, that's very likely as well, and something I didn't consider. Guess we'll find out in a couple of months mate.
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    Rahaya's Avatar
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    Y'chala Tamh
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    Exodus
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Pylfer View Post
    I assume the limiting factor is going to be their weapons have shit Raw damage to compensate for combo finishers with 320 POT, Kiss of the Wasp/Viper, B4B, Internal, +15% ATKSPD and the +10% damage.
    Why? Mnks have 27% damage with GL3, 15% attack speed, 5% from Fists of Fire, 10% from Twin Snakes, -10% Blunt Resistance, B4B and for them Internal Release is better. Ninjas have higher base potency, 15% attack speed and -10% Slashing Resistance, B4B and weaksauce IR but 22% LESS steroid damage topped out. You do have high potency Trick Attack...on a 60sec CD.

    Bootshine autocrit is 225 potency iirc, compared to NIN's 150 (180) potency Spinning Edge, for example. It's easy to eyeball the potency numbers and think 'high damage' but Mnk has more steroids than people give them credit for. I expect NIN to be higher than DRG on long fights, better at burst than MNK but top out lower. Middle of the lane.

    EDITED: For bad math and forgetting about Twin Snakes. So...yeah.
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    Last edited by Rahaya; 10-28-2014 at 01:45 PM.

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    Mykll Valiant
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by Kripp View Post
    Is it possible that Ninja will do more dps than Monk?
    Yes. It's also possible that Monk dps will be more than Ninja.
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    MANTASTIC: I got 1017 problems, but playing FFXIV ain't one.

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    Acial Daago
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    Leviathan
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    Lancer Lv 36
    Monks: "I sure hope not!"
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    Autumn Hollow
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    Midgardsormr
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Probably in long fights like turn eight, unless the bard is on top of paeon. Dragoons never have to worry about TP unlike monk, and rogues seem to be able to heal their own TP.
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    Y'chala Tamh
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    Exodus
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by AutumnsHollow View Post
    Probably in long fights like turn eight, unless the bard is on top of paeon. Dragoons never have to worry about TP unlike monk, and rogues seem to be able to heal their own TP.
    Goad is worded specifically "party member" so I am 98% sure they won't be able to use it on themselves.
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Monks are awesome DPS because they can stack dmg buffs/debuffs , Greased L 3 (15% dmg , 15% atk speed) , fist of fire (5% dmg) , Twin snakes (10% bonus) , and Dragon kick -10% blunt resistance......can dispel and silence (lowes dps)

    I doubt ninjas will be able to do more dps than monks , but have some utiltiy , Slashing debuff (if not war) , 10% more dmg for 10s every once in a while , TP for mnk/drg, or a tank that got rezzed and needs to grab agro :P. , Silence on demand.

    if only nin boosted magic dmg / restore MP they could remplace Brds (dex job vs dex job afterall)
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    Lord Rulkar
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    It's not a matter of who can beat who to me. It's if I have fun playing the job or not. If I like ninja more than I do monk then of course I will play it instead. Vice versa if I like playing monk more.
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