Booing when Coil2 Nerf was announced

[Kyroc]

thankfully coil will simply end one day

And the next raid will be there to take its place

[razzgrizz3]

the only problem i see with this is it if its nerfed so much and then everybody can clear it and access coil3 it will simply polute the player pool with too many bads which will become very anoying to static leaders trying to replace people when needed. i remember when levi ex came out and you could easily pug it in the first few weeks but then the bads caught up and it became impossible lol.

[wicked-one]

Cmon, Echo did nothing good, it's up to 20% and still so much struggle at T5 and/or Titan EX...

The only catch-up is, your gear needs not to be as good as before, but you can nerf it to oblivion, bad players won't make it through anyway.

[JonBigwood]

Making previous Coil easier (echo buff) may help also people who have already passed it. Players leave the game or their static groups and groups need to find new members. If newly arrived players can quickly get prepared to join the statics, it will be better for all.

It's normal that people who have struggled or are struggling to win something don't like the idea that it will be made easier pretty soon so that other people have it easier than they did. Be it Coil, atmas, relic, Amdapor Keep, Pharos Sirius, whatever. But new people are needed and they have to be able to catch up in a reasonable time.

[Alkimi]

Seems everyone missed the part where they said they're not nerfing second coil right away. They're leaving it as is come 2.4, monitoring how many "new clears" they get, and then adjusting it accordingly. A nerf to mechanics might not even be needed as having access to i120+ gear will make all 4 turns easier (yes, even Turn 7)

If you remember, first coil was supposed to get 25% echo eventually, however they stopped at 15% for a long time because many people were clearing it and then eventually pushed it up to 20 where it stayed.

[Rieze_Xeero]

All I want is a Duty Finder for Coil... Where you don't need pre-made parties before you enter. Hard for people who have work or other RL activities to form a static. Keep the difficulty, I don't need echo. And if others say it will be hard on PUG since you will get random players every time, then bring it on that's fine. It's better that at least I have tried it than not being able to try it because I can't find a static. At least that what I feel but I am against in making it easier though.

[Wasabi-Guy]

*raises hand*

dick

assholes

Your point is moot.

[Tiggy]

Unless by "games" you meant MMOs, then you might have a stronger case. Maybe.

Yes, I meant MMOs. I was having some extreme issues with my phone in the airport so I was struggling to get posts in. I think I had to re-edit that post like three times. Ugh.

Also, I pointed out earlier in the thread that all the fanfest proved was "here are 4k people that enjoy the game enough and could afford to actually go." Definitely any assertions of a casual or hardcore nature can't really be proven. Since it's 4k people though it's still statistically significant for some purposes though. I can say this though. Based on the shouts and cheers for various questions and based on my personal experiences talking to people around the con I have to say there was a very serious casual and hardcore component. The fan festival really had people from all varieties. Even met some people who primarily RP.

[Akira_Tenshi]

Why do they care though? The content will be irrelevant to the hardcore players when 2.4 releases. Why are they so against making it easier for the people struggling and falling behind. They deserve a chance to catch up.

[Gucci_Charms]

Why do they care though? The content will be irrelevant to the hardcore players when 2.4 releases. Why are they so against making it easier for the people struggling and falling behind. They deserve a chance to catch up.

Because nerfing does not make good players.