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    wicked-one's Avatar
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    Azul Earendil
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    -snip-
    Well, in my Job, I have a so perfect Quote for it, which fits in here as well...
    "You can't fix a social problem by technical means"

    And let's face it, new Gear is incoming, which makes old content even more easier, so i really don't see the road blocks, just always the same problem, not getting 8 people together for 10 minutes focused play...
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    Never a mind was changed on an internet board, no matter how good your arguments are...

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    Florence Leduc
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 90
    personally i did loose interest in raiding in this game simply because it lack chaos... most of the fight are extremely scripted or reliant on insta-gib technic way too much. i prefer a boss that will punish you by putting you really close to dead, believe me for a raid is far harder to catch back... and more important healer will have tons of work. however, it will not rely to simply follow a script perfectly for beat a content... not every one want to do dance dance revolution in them endgame. (me first i admit it)

    i want fight that ask to the group to take fast decision for adapt to unknow and need to be good simply... not to reproduce a pattern, but to adapt at whatever the boss can toss you. but i guess i'm one of the few one that want to have more chaotic fight that will need more coordination in the group and a better teamplay than we have soo far. because sorry here if everybody respect the pattern the team play is close of 0.

    less insta-gib, less scripted and a bit more chaotic, will make the endgame more thrilling!
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    Magis's Avatar
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    Magis Luagis
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    Excalibur
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    Also they are unlocking the lockout on Coil2 anyway. Coil2 will be very active for the new few months, so if it's an accessibility thing, don't worry SE has that covered since both new and old players will be doing it. However the actually fight shouldn't change.
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    Odintius Baelsar
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    Once final bahumut is out you'll see how quiet it will be about the subject just like before and in the future, gamers complaining about each others gaming styles no one right it how people want to play a game this isn't rl or a second job it entertainment and people have different taste for it and both are being appeased really in the end.
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    Magis Luagis
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    Quote Originally Posted by odintius View Post
    Once final bahumut is out you'll see how quiet it will be about the subject just like before and in the future, gamers complaining about each others gaming styles no one right it how people want to play a game this isn't rl or a second job it entertainment and people have different taste for it and both are being appeased really in the end.
    Uh, people are still complaining about T5, so I doubt it.
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    Tiggy Te'al
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magis View Post
    Uh, people are still complaining about T5, so I doubt it.
    People who can't beat T5 are in for a very rude awakening in the second coil.
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    Odintius Baelsar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magis View Post
    Uh, people are still complaining about T5, so I doubt it.
    Only because the subject was brought back up but somehow this game still trucking along fine that and it the forums people need to complain about something or it isn't the forums.
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    Taban Highwind
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    What nerfs exactly are they putting in? I never saw them listen anywhere
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    Am I a butterfly dreaming I'm a man... Or a bowling ball dreaming I'm a plate of sashimi?

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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taban View Post
    What nerfs exactly are they putting in? I never saw them listen anywhere
    They said Coil 2 wasn't to be nerfed so that one could simply go in and just pewpewpew boss killed (Yoshi did a nice impression on this). They did say there will be some changes to mechanics, the example mentioned was damage not one-shotting players who've been stoned in T7.
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    People play how they want to play they found an alternate option to beat a boss beside the dance off it was really and honestly they need more alternate way imo. For me personnelly if people goes in that turn and say were doing rot method, I don't complain if the people want to do rage mode, I don't complain. I just play the game and treat it as such a game if we fail I give people more then enough time for to get practice in without going in my rage mode it unwarrented insults of they suck as a gamer blah blah.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReplicaX View Post
    My point is simple though. As Tiggy mentioned, the changes to 1st Coil after release of 2nd were minor. I brought up Rot as it was an actual mechanic that many players bypassed via an exploit which was not originally intended and part of that fight.

    Nice Ebola reference btw
    /bow ty
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    Last edited by odintius; 10-24-2014 at 01:46 AM.

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