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  1. #971
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    Ein Vaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanmato View Post
    You're quite right. Adding up to that, WoW has actually lost an incredible 800,000 subscribers the last 2.5 months.
    To be honest, this game would lose a relative amount of subscribers if they didn't have a real content update for almost an entire year. Let that sink in for a bit. People stop playing this game after a month or two of the latest patch. Now imagine if this game didn't have a patch for an entire year. It's actually fairly impressive that they didn't lose more IMO.
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  2. #972
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    To be honest, this game would lose a relative amount of subscribers if they didn't have a real content update for almost an entire year. Let that sink in for a bit. People stop playing this game after a month or two of the latest patch. Now imagine if this game didn't have a patch for an entire year. It's actually fairly impressive that they didn't lose more IMO.
    And while they did lose some the past few months, they still gained most of that loss back already and there isn't even anything new outside of one quest line.
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  3. #973
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    To be honest, this game would lose a relative amount of subscribers if they didn't have a real content update for almost an entire year. Let that sink in for a bit. People stop playing this game after a month or two of the latest patch. Now imagine if this game didn't have a patch for an entire year. It's actually fairly impressive that they didn't lose more IMO.
    So with a cash shop we can look forward to no real content updates for an entire year? Just more cash shop stuff.
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  4. #974
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    Overall, WoW has trended downward. Expect a big bump for the expansion.

    Regardless, F2P, cash shops, and freebie starter accounts can all inflate numbers and increase some players. These attract some players - It would be naïve to ignore that. It just generally is a different player demographic from the ones that traditionally prefer a single sub game.

    So - I wouldn't predict doom and gloom... but definitely a change in the player demographics and feel of the game.
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  5. #975
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aegis View Post
    So with a cash shop we can look forward to no real content updates for an entire year? Just more cash shop stuff.
    No, but we can expect to be taken out of context while people still grasp at straws.

    Please look forward to it.
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  6. #976
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asierid View Post
    No, but we can expect to be taken out of context while people still grasp at straws.

    Please look forward to it.
    Pretty much all they're doing while ignoring that most of the "doom and gloom" are people comparing F2P and P2W MMOs. I guess they're basically saying ARR is going F2P? Since you know, they're "taking content out of the game oh noes!" Maybe we should protest the sale of the Expansion next year, that way they don't take content out of the game that they should just patch in you know? Why should I pay for an expansion pack? I pay my sub, I'm entitled to every expansion for free.
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  7. #977
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Pretty much all they're doing while ignoring that most of the "doom and gloom" are people comparing F2P and P2W MMOs. I guess they're basically saying ARR is going F2P? Since you know, they're "taking content out of the game oh noes!" Maybe we should protest the sale of the Expansion next year, that way they don't take content out of the game that they should just patch in you know? Why should I pay for an expansion pack? I pay my sub, I'm entitled to every expansion for free.
    But you could buy the expansion from the cash shop! ... you know it's a good idea... don't pretend it's not.

    ..and why not purchasable content? It's no different from buying an expansion or whatever... but you get to choose what content you want.
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  8. #978
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApolloGenX View Post
    But you could buy the expansion from the cash shop! ... you know it's a good idea... don't pretend it's not.

    ..and why not purchasable content? It's no different from buying an expansion or whatever... but you get to choose what content you want.
    You can also buy sound logic from there too.

    While we're at it, meteors are coming and we're all doomed. But we could be saved by the sky wizard who will bless us with wings right? It's my opinion, I believe it to be true.
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  9. #979
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asierid View Post
    While we're at it, meteors are coming and we're all doomed. But we could be saved by the sky wizard who will bless us with wings right?
    I'm sorry, but the wings will cost $5 per pair at the shop.

    Jokes aside, I'm fine with the shop. I'm not going to bash it before we've had some time to see how they plan to use it and what kind of stuff they want to put in it. If after a couple of months it's looking grim then I'll voice my concerns, but until we've actually seen it everything is just assumption.
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  10. #980
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunenori View Post
    assumption.
    Well damn. Someone finally guessed the entire theme of this thread. /cookie

    That's it then, go home folks.
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