Cash shop confirmed

[Tupsi]

No, but we can expect to be taken out of context while people still grasp at straws.

Please look forward to it.

Pretty much all they're doing while ignoring that most of the "doom and gloom" are people comparing F2P and P2W MMOs. I guess they're basically saying ARR is going F2P? Since you know, they're "taking content out of the game oh noes!" Maybe we should protest the sale of the Expansion next year, that way they don't take content out of the game that they should just patch in you know? Why should I pay for an expansion pack? I pay my sub, I'm entitled to every expansion for free.

[ApolloGenX]

Pretty much all they're doing while ignoring that most of the "doom and gloom" are people comparing F2P and P2W MMOs. I guess they're basically saying ARR is going F2P? Since you know, they're "taking content out of the game oh noes!" Maybe we should protest the sale of the Expansion next year, that way they don't take content out of the game that they should just patch in you know? Why should I pay for an expansion pack? I pay my sub, I'm entitled to every expansion for free.

But you could buy the expansion from the cash shop! ... you know it's a good idea... don't pretend it's not.

..and why not purchasable content? It's no different from buying an expansion or whatever... but you get to choose what content you want.

[Asierid]

But you could buy the expansion from the cash shop! ... you know it's a good idea... don't pretend it's not.

..and why not purchasable content? It's no different from buying an expansion or whatever... but you get to choose what content you want.

You can also buy sound logic from there too.

While we're at it, meteors are coming and we're all doomed. But we could be saved by the sky wizard who will bless us with wings right? It's my opinion, I believe it to be true.

[Tsunenori]

While we're at it, meteors are coming and we're all doomed. But we could be saved by the sky wizard who will bless us with wings right?

I'm sorry, but the wings will cost $5 per pair at the shop.

Jokes aside, I'm fine with the shop. I'm not going to bash it before we've had some time to see how they plan to use it and what kind of stuff they want to put in it. If after a couple of months it's looking grim then I'll voice my concerns, but until we've actually seen it everything is just assumption.

[Asierid]

assumption.

Well damn. Someone finally guessed the entire theme of this thread. /cookie

That's it then, go home folks.

[Tsunenori]

Well damn. Someone finally guessed the entire theme of this thread. /cookie

That's it then, go home folks.

Not sure if positive reply or negative. Still, while I admit that 99 pages is a bit much to read through, I think I have a fairly decent idea of the types of conversations had in here. People are right to be wary of it I think, because there are plenty of companies that have milked customers for all they're worth using cash shops over the past few years. It's a trend that is probably still going to get a bit worse before it gets better. We're in a weird period where everyone is trying to figure out the best way to handle it, and I think some companies do a better job than others.

Across however many threads at this point one tends to see the same kinds of replies, even where the cash shop isn't in the discussion at first. "Oh, sorry but that'll cost ______ in the cash shop." Personally I'd rather wait and see where they want to go with it first before assuming that I'll have to pay money for every little thing in the game. I've spoken to others I play with as well and the response is mostly the same. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind with this necessarily, but rather just doing what everyone else here has and giving my opinion.

[Tupsi]

Not sure if positive reply or negative. Still, while I admit that 99 pages is a bit much to read through, I think I have a fairly decent idea of the types of conversations had in here.

Tl;dr version:

Against: "No P2P MMO should have a Cash Shop, I mean, look at all of the MMOs that milk players with game breaking items. I forgot to mention these are F2P and Pay to Win MMORPGs and never has happened in a P2P MMO before."

For: "Eh, doesn't bother me I just won't use it as I can still play the game just fine."

Neutral/Don't Care: "Let's wait and see what happens."

Against: "WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THEY WILL SELL GAME BREAKING ITEMS! THEY WILL TAKE CONTENT OUT OF THE GAME TO RESELL IT TO YOU! HOW ARE YOU OK WITH THIS?"

Rinse and Repeat for 99 pages.