Cash shop confirmed

[TheodoreMcIntyre]

You like the game, so you want them to implement something that will hurt players, and then the game? ok.

Apparently, the point hasn't just gone over your head, it went screeching past you while breaking the sound barrier until it crashed and burned a few miles down wind and you still didn't see it.

[Cherry_Phox]

So I skimmed through most of this thread as I seemed to be reading the same argument over and over again. I don't believe this point was made out too well.

If you make a cash shop for vanity. Are you not simply devaluing the crafters in the game? Nearly most things you need crafters for are things that would be okay to put in a cash shop. Furniture and vanity clothes.

Items that are time sink and gil sink like materia and unspoiled nodes.

They have been in trying to figure out ways to take care of the Atma outcry. Again, I forsee a dual option of either timesink, gilsink, or walletsink coming out of that alone.

In the end though, I am bias on the matter and am in the camp that 'as long as I can work for it in game cause sub' So yay my silly two cents.

[IveraIvalice]

They aren't ripping anyone off because they aren't forcing anyone to buy them. Square Enix is a For Profit company, what's hard to grasp that a company that was in the red wants to get some more funds by providing a service that plenty of people want.

Whenever a mount or minion was announced and released I've been able to get it in game wether I did or not, I was able to for 4 years in this games life. Even after all the changes to 2.0 they did not resort to a cash shop. Only after they have succeeded they are doing this. Not to keep the game alive but for their own greed since they already passed the difficult part.
Now there will be some mounts and minions that I will not have any way too gain unless I pay them more money.
They took away something I was able to have before and making me pay for it. That's ring ripped off.

And I don't remember anyone wanting a cash shop. If I ever saw a thread about a cash shop most were glad that one wasn't here

[Mirili]

Anyone who likes this game is against this kind of cash shop.

No TRUE Scotsman would ever endorse such a thing.

[Aylis]

The decision to add a cash shop is very anti-consumer, as a consumer you should be against such a change.

Let me ask you a question, would you rather pay $5 for a mount or earn the same mount in game?

Pay the $5, its not like the mounts are anything special game mechanic wise anyway. A chocobo is no different then magitek which is no different then primal mounts which are no different then the free veteran reward mounts. Its all vanity.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

Yeah players are so hurt without the Sleipnir mount. I think without the Sleipnir mount I am unable to clear the Final Coil of Bahamut.

It hurts players when they move content from the game behind a paywall. Is not the importance of the game itself, is not its effect, is the fact of it being behind a paywall, be it a mount or a super i200 weapon, the fact of said content not being in the game and being behind a paywall is what hurts players. You know what other company does this kind of thing? Electronic Arts. And that alone should speak of the kind of market strategy SE is aiming to.

To me it makes the game better and more enjoyable if I can spend $5 to get a mount that I really want. Instead of spending 200+ hours trying to farm it and have nothing to show for it due to 1% drop rates and losing the rolls.

But hides that content from players who dont want to pay. And more important, it stops being content in game, cause is not part of the game paying to get something, you are not facing a boss, you are gathering or grinding, you are not PLAYING for the reward, you are paying. Which makes it unfair for players who, as strage as it sounds, want to play to get their rewards on the game.

And as i said, the ideal should be that said mounts were added to BOTH, game and cash shop, but with a time frame of diference, that creates a incentive for developers to keep developing FOR the game and have new items in the future to sell on the cash shop. Everyone wins: Players dont get content locked behind a paywall, developers get extra monies with time as they keep creating vanity content and unlucky players just have to wait for a certain period of time (a reasonable ammout to leave the feeling of reward and achivement intact) to get that mount they want so bad.

As i said, cash shop exclusive content will only hurt the game.

[TheodoreMcIntyre]

Pay the $5, its not like the mounts are anything special game mechanic wise anyway. A chocobo is no different then magitek which is no different then primal mounts which are no different then the free veteran reward mounts. Its all vanity.

I agree with Aylis. I don't give two goobue droppings about how I get the mount. If I want it enough, I'll pay for it. If I don't want it enough, I don't pay for it. But, frankly, between $5 or farming Titan EX a couple hundred times, I think I would rather sacrifice the $5. I'll skip buying myself a lemonade on the way to class for a couple of days or something.

[OMG]

I hope they take a page out of Blizzard's book and donate the first few weeks or so of pet/mount sales to charity.

That's a pretty awesome thing to do I think. Get yourself a shiny thing and help those in need!

[Dwill]

No TRUE Scotsman would ever endorse such a thing.

I like you.

Whenever a mount or minion was announced and released I've been able to get it in game wether I did or not, I was able to for 4 years in this games life. Even after all the changes to 2.0 they did not resort to a cash shop. Only after they have succeeded they are doing this. Not to keep the game alive but for their own greed since they already passed the difficult part.
Now there will be some mounts and minions that I will not have any way too gain unless I pay them more money.
They took away something I was able to have before and making me pay for it. That's ring ripped off.

And I don't remember anyone wanting a cash shop. If I ever saw a thread about a cash shop most were glad that one wasn't here

Let me open with this: Square Enix is a public company. Their whole financial records are online for anyone who has the internet and 5 minutes of times. Go see how well their past business model was for them then come talk about greed. Which is kind of hypocritical of you seeing as you say you'll always take the free stuff and get in a fit when people are charging you for their time spent developing a product.

By the way, some people like myself or people I know of can never get the elemental horses from the primals because to an excessively low drop rates which our schedule does not allow to farm. So answer me this champ, what's the difference between someone who can sink in hours into the game to farm something but can't afford the cash shop's horses or someone who can afford the cash shop's horse but can't farm for hours on end ?

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

[QUOTE=Dwill;2516392
By the way, some people like myself or people I know of can never get the elemental horses from the primals because to an excessively low drop rates which our schedule does not allow to farm. So answer me this champ, what's the difference between someone who can sink in hours into the game to farm something but can't afford the cash shop's horses or someone who can afford the cash shop's horse but can't farm for hours on end ?[/QUOTE]

The diference is that one is PLAYING. The other is PAYING. And thats a really big diference. Games are made to be played not payed. If you dont have the time and want a shortcut, you should reconsider your hobbies cause gaming is obviusly not for you.