Very conflicted about the cash shop...

[SinisterIsBack]

I too am not really happy about this.

I'd feel a lot better if these items were available in the game without the option of paying for it. Vanity or not, we're already paying monthly for this. The least they could have done is added it to a veteran reward or something.

Lame move Square.

Minus the minions/mount they are available in game. (or were??) Last Halloween....

The expansion, kind of falls under this.

Now we have gotten so far as to bring an expansion into this?? LOL

What, you want everything for free I assume? Stop being a cheaparse

That's funny, because it did mean that until just now. Apparently, the subscription fee is no longer a fee to experience the whole game, but merely just parts of the game. Our subscription money is literally worth less than it used to, from now on.

Oh, so because a couple Halloween costumes, minions, and 1 mount mean that only parts of the game are available.

LOOK OUT GUYS, HYPERBOLE EXTREME TOO STRONG!

It literally negates 99% of the crafts available to every DoH except CUL, and each patch those high end crafts will be moved to vanity.

Yes, because 4 Halloween items totally cover 99% of all crafts..

I mean at least you guys are going to the total extremes in your posts so its really really easy to smell the bs

The analogy literally does work, they are charging you an extra $10 for things you don't need and instead want. Your arbitrary definitions of importance aren't relevant.

It literally does not work... you don't have to pay anything. You lose nothing by not getting stuff from the shop.

"Vanity items only" is just how it starts. I've seen it more than once now.

*sigh. Well, I was really excited for Heavensward. But, I'm out. I'm done. If they are adding a cash shop I will not be subscribing anymore.

bye!

[Kaeda_Valentyne]

This just in RMT approved by SE as long as its for vanity.
Now let me just go and buy that 3 million gil I need for that super cute blue bird minion I really want. Its ok because its not game breaking its just for vanity.

And for all you people who are saying they have jobs to do and kids with mouths to feed, so do the RMTs. They might really need that 10 bucks so we should be supportive and selfless in helping them out. Right Right

I don't really have a problem with the cash shop for vanity items. I will be first in line if they put the blue bird on it. I just think its funny how there are double standards about it. I'm sure the people all gung ho, super white knighting it are the first to complain about RMTs being bad/wrong. It doesn't matter who the seller is the end result is still the same. In game items for real money.

[Fue]

Isn't that exactly how it is? Everything in it are vanity items that were previously attainable from an event.

Yes like that sleipnir mount.. Oh wait

[saeedaisspecial]

It literally does not work... you don't have to pay anything. You lose nothing by not getting stuff from the shop.

This is outright wrong, you are lying to yourself.
Take a look at the announced Odin mount (which is exclusive to the cash shop according to the Live Letter announcement last night)
At some point during the development process of either the mount or the trial the question must have been raised - Do we make this a drop, similar to the Extreme Primal mounts? Or do we put it into a cash shop?
This question WILL have come up during the development process. They have clearly chosen the route that will yield them money as opposed to the more fairer for all option.

We are losing things because of the cash shop. Content that otherwise would have had a direct method of being obtained in game is now being sold to us.

[Leigaon]

The pre-order, collector's edition, and soundtrack minions cost extra money over the regular game too.

Unless I see non-cosmetic items/perks start popping up, my only problem against the cash shop is that the minions are a bit expensive for what they are.

At $5 a pop, if you buy a mere 4 minions, you've already dropped $20.
$2 a pop is a more reasonable price I think.

I must of misunderstood it when my friend told me. I thought it was $5 for 4..which seemed reasonable to me. But $5 for a minion? I'm good..someone else will buy. Not like I notice what minion people have anyways. Simple solution for me, I want minion, but I don't want to pay $5..so I don't pay and don't get it...game keeps on rolling.

[Lovescake]

I don't want this to turn into a situation where they hold back content that would actually be in the game to sell in the cash shop. We are paying monthly for content already. Everything they develop should either be included and available in the patch or part of an expansion. To start withholding content to sell on top of a subscription fee is incredibly distasteful.

Maybe if you had any proof of said items shown that would of been obtainable in game then i'd probably agree, but youre going over too much speculation here.

- The Slepinir horn was found in the DB, correct. however there was no stated drop or use for it, now we know its a cash shop item to get said mount as well as a purely cosmetic feature, its not faster in any way.
- The minions are purely cosmetic outside of battle and have no effect on anything
- Event items were once obtainable in game but now are available to those who missed said event, youre probably thinking "well they were and should be exclusive to the event"... My girlfriend did ALL the anniversary quests and events available and didnt get the "Huzzah" Emotion.. So in a way it helps those who didnt get these items for whatever reasons. + again, purely cosmetic.

+ As said in the live letter, it doesn't give ANY advantage to ANY player. they're there purely for cosmetics which is why im defending it, if it had boosts and such then i'd beannoyed due to it being P2P (Pay 2 Play). This kinda system is on ALOT of P2P MMO's, heck i believe in WoW you can buy mounts and stuff to show-off. in most free MMO's its a PW2 (Pay 2 Win) Service which is what breaks them since people buy expensive gems/gear and automatically get high up in the player base for it.

This system works, it helps out SE for all costs across their board (and lets be honest, the items cost less than a fantasia as far as we've seen. £3.50 at most)

If you wanted to complain about anything, why not the extra retainers? i mean cmon, more chances at rare dyes? someone call the fashion police.

TL;DR - Don't like it, don't use it.

[Fyce]

We are losing things because of the cash shop. Content that otherwise would have had a direct method of being obtained in game is now being sold to us.

What tells you that they would have taken the time and ressources to make the Sleipnir mount and other vanity stuff if it was not for the Cash Shop?

You're assuming that some stuff will be created, and then they will ask themselves the question about putting it in the cash shop. You're completly ignoring the possibility of the question being asked the other way around: "We will have a Cash Shop. What should we create to fill it?"...

... But yeah, let's all jump into the "Ewwww! what a bunch of greedy as***les! They're cutting off content from us!" bandwagon. It's the mainstream reaction to have nowadays.

[Wings]

How long before hairstyles are put into the cashshop... Or *shudder* lockboxes added? What they've said will be there is only what they're starting with, and bit by bit more things will be added.

This makes me very sad =(

[TheRandomBard]

Y'all are a bunch of crybabies.

[Kaeda_Valentyne]

Y'all are a bunch of crybabies.

You are quite eloquent, I applaud your bard like sentencing structure.
{slow clap}