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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Teirshin. Teirshin look at me. Teirshin I swear to you. I swear Teirshin. I will never. Not ever. Buy a Cash Shop item from Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn. You hear me Teirshin? You read me clearly? Teirshin? You understand Teirshin? Teirshin?
    <gives you an acorn cookie>

    Its true though, tons of people will post here bitching, but the moment they can click "buy", they'll do it.

    Is it any wonder most games today ship with microtransactions of some sort? EA is targeting to make $1 Billion for DLC.... so dont you think for one second SE isnt going to try and make a cash grab as best they can too. And this is only the beginning of it.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doki View Post
    I love how the forums are full of vitriol for the cash shop yet, come next Tuesday, there's going to be hundreds of Slepnirs everywhere.
    That cause the people on the forums are actually small portion of the actual player base.
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    Sadly all it takes is a few people with too much money to throw around to make cash shops a success. No matter how many people you piss of with cash shops, the spending-happy ones will make up for the lost subscriptions. The crappiest F2P games with the craziest rip-off deals can survive ages on a small playerbase, because there just is a fraction of people who'll throw their money at the developers as long as the developers keep taking it.


    Someone sitting on their Sleipnir won't be able to think to themselves "I earned this."
    They should think "Micro transactions and RMT exist because of people like me."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riepah View Post
    Sadly all it takes is a few people with too much money to throw around to make cash shops a success. No matter how many people you piss of with cash shops, the spending-happy ones will make up for the lost subscriptions. The crappiest F2P games with the craziest rip-off deals can survive ages on a small playerbase, because there just is a fraction of people who'll throw their money at the developers as long as the developers keep taking it.


    Someone sitting on their Sleipnir won't be able to think to themselves "I earned this."
    They should think "Micro transactions and RMT exist because of people like me."
    More money than brains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riepah View Post
    Sadly all it takes is a few people with too much money to throw around to make cash shops a success. No matter how many people you piss of with cash shops, the spending-happy ones will make up for the lost subscriptions. The crappiest F2P games with the craziest rip-off deals can survive ages on a small playerbase, because there just is a fraction of people who'll throw their money at the developers as long as the developers keep taking it.


    Someone sitting on their Sleipnir won't be able to think to themselves "I earned this."
    They should think "Micro transactions and RMT exist because of people like me."
    100% Agree with this, as a cash shop draws the same crowds as RMTs.
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    Paying the subscrition = "The fuel you ordered and paid for is ready!"
    Cash Shop = "But if you want it you have to pay us again"
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    I don't understand how people think anything going into the cash shop is "extra." How do you distinguish a minion or mount that is, and always was, intended as an outside cash shop item, versus one which could have been earned in-game from a quest, dungeon drop, of FATE?

    Do you think the devs at Square Enix devote their main working hours only to "essential" game content, and then all the cash shop items are personal hobby projects they design in their spare time? It is all just game content, guys. There is no "essential" versus "extra." Square Enix is not working harder, churning out more items, to compensate for the cash shop's inventory. The only "extra" involved is the extra money they now expect you to pay for it.

    A week or two ago, you would have seen that Sleipnir mount and thought "Wow, awesome! Finally, maybe we can do the Odin FATE and win his mount!" You would have looked at the Pumpkin Head hat, and assumed it would be part of a Hallowe'en-themed holiday event quest or bought from an NPC vendor in town for a few gil. You would have seen the Y'shtola, Papalymo, and Yda minions and assumed you could get them similarly to how you got the Minfillia and Thancred ones. But now that you know a cash shop is coming, you're suddenly so sure that these are all "extra" vanity things that were never meant to be in the game anyway, and that the base game is not lacking for anything because of it.

    "Just play the game as you normally would, and don't buy from the cash shop if you don't like it." Unfortunately, that is not how it works. How I normally would enjoy the game is to pay my sub and have access to any content that came out. Now, an increasing amount of items are being stripped from the main experience and sold off for extra money. My subscription dollars are literally buying less content than I used to get. It is harming the game, whether I participate in the cash shop or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tenbe View Post
    I don't get free gas for paying cartaxes monthly.
    That's funny, I had no idea that all the minions, mounts, and unique gear skins in the game so far were actually just "free gas" provided by Square Enix, out of the goodness of their hearts. I was under the impression that content like that was included in my monthly subscription fees all this time -- or at least, it sure seemed to be, and the devs never made any claim otherwise. I had no idea that these things were merely extra gifts, and not really part of the game I bought and paid for. It's a good thing we have people like you who can discern these things for us, so that we can all be educated. I wonder why nobody ever mentioned this fact before the cash shop was announced, though..??
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    Cash shop hasent ruined LoL. I see the cash shop here to have much the same function. I'm looking forward to it! My only question is, will most of the cash shop stuff also be available to get in game for limited times? Like the holiday events? or will there be things ONLY available in the cash shop? Probably a mix. Sweet! just answered my own question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    Cash shop hasent ruined LoL. I see the cash shop here to have much the same function. I'm looking forward to it! My only question is, will most of the cash shop stuff also be available to get in game for limited times? Like the holiday events? or will there be things ONLY available in the cash shop? Probably a mix. Sweet! just answered my own question.
    League of legends doesn't have a monthly subscription fee, not the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    Cash shop hasent ruined LoL. I see the cash shop here to have much the same function. I'm looking forward to it! My only question is, will most of the cash shop stuff also be available to get in game for limited times? Like the holiday events? or will there be things ONLY available in the cash shop? Probably a mix. Sweet! just answered my own question.
    LoL doesn't ask for a monthly subscription in order to play it...

    Anyway, you seem like the kind of customer every business dreams of. Congratulations!
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