SP nerfed. We were lied to.

[odette]

curiously ffxi fans defend party grind fest that leveling in two weeks is not mmo, well ffxi you can got 1 to lvl 90 in 2 days now

hard for made or search party find tank and healer class take a hours, people dont uses party finder so shout for hours is boring, people leave in half hour so
i prefer fatigue with old system that new system wher eyou kill enemies +8 level of you and give you 100 sp

[Starlord]

Do other things (like grinding parties) that give BETTER experience than that. The fact is that people have been giving you the solution for a while, and you just refuse to listen, because it completely invalidates your point, making you the liar.

Not to Mention Grinding is " Continuous" Behest and leve's are not that's why Grind partyies will always dish out the best sp by the time you reach behest time or leve time

[Kensei]

the solution is to do something other then behest

is that so hard to understand?


if you dont want to do something else, thats on you, not SE.


also what if i pointed out you are now getting the same SP you got pre SP changes? so guess what, your getting SP like you used to in behest when it was popular back then too!

so they didnt really nerf behest, they put it back to how it was(didnt think of that now did you?)

I would gladly try anything that gives the same sp/hour behest did pre-patch. But guess what? It doesn't exist after the patch.

Behest wasn't nerfed? Behest was probably the biggest SP nerf of them all. If they put it the way it was it was they still nerfed from what it was in 1.17c. So Yoshi lied.

[TheVedis]

If you don't share the same troubles as Kensei, then stop posting.

This thread is to discuss the SP issues, not deal with straw-man arguments.

actualy, this thread was starting by kensei to complain about his behest issues...go look who the OP is

[Kensei]

You really are deaf, aren't you? Behest NEVER has been the best SP/hour, you repeating that over and over doesn't make it true. Best Sp/hour has always been grinding on regular mobs. The fact that behest was easy to join and didn't take much attention made it a "convenient" way to grind, not the best. Wait for people to figure out grind spots for all Rank ranges and you will see that grinding on regular mobs is better sp/hour than behest ever was. Cause right now the only rank range people cared about finding grind spots was R 40+ and grinding on mobs at 40+ gave you 300SP per mob w/o any downtime. You could grind mobs the whole 60minutes so go figure what kind of SP/hour that was...

That's your own personal experience. The reason I'm not replying to those claiming behest was not the best sp/hour is because they are all full of ****.

Most people posting here now have no interest in discussing the issue and are now looking for ways to bash me or prove me wrong. But hey it's their time and they can use it how they like.

[TheVedis]

That's your own personal experience. The reason I'm not replying to thoe claiming behest was not the best sp/hour is because they are all full of ****.

Most people posting here now have no interest in discussing the issue and are now looking for ways to bash me or prove me wrong. But hey it's their time and they can use it how they like.

behest wasnt the best sp per hour, so your the one full of it

were you getting 30k+ per hour in behest? i dont think so
end of story

[KaiKatzchen]

I would gladly try anything that gives the same sp/hour behest did pre-patch. But guess what? It doesn't exist after the patch.

Behest wasn't nerfed? Behest was probably the biggest SP nerf of them all. If they put it the way it was it was they still nerfed from what it was in 1.17c. So Yoshi lied.

Have you tried every way to level since the patch? Have to done leves? Have you been in a grinding party for a few hours? Have you gone and done the quests in the cities that give a good bonus?

If you have not tried them on your own, not listening to everyone else, but trying on your own then you don't know if it exists.

I did feel bad for ya, but now it seems more like people are trying to help you (as rude as people are being) and you don't want to admit this far into the thread that maybe you do have other options. You keep using the same thing over and over as your big evidence that Yoshi lied: Behest

Well I'm sorry to say, but Behest =/= FFXIV, there is a whole other world out there.


Good luck.

[Kensei]

Not to Mention Grinding is " Continuous" Behest and leve's are not that's why Grind partyies will always dish out the best sp by the time you reach behest time or leve time

That's great Star. Your experience vastly differs from mine but I am glad that works out for you.

[Kailok]

I would gladly try anything that gives the same sp/hour behest did pre-patch. But guess what? It doesn't exist after the patch.

Behest wasn't nerfed? Behest was probably the biggest SP nerf of them all. If they put it the way it was it was they still nerfed from what it was in 1.17c. So Yoshi lied.

Yoshi didn't lie. As it has been pointed out multiple times in this thread, he clearly stated that there would be balances to the system. Exploits have been dealt with. And I imagine the reason behind the timer for Behest is to stop the same people from finishing a behest, running back, and doing it again when there are other people waiting to do it too. I imagine in the future the Behests will become much more fun with new updates to them. I wish people would stop treating Yoshi like he's destroyed their house and shot their dog even though they refuse to read that he's already said.

With that being said, I have seen no reduction in my overall SP gain. I've been grinding and done two dungeons and I've had no problem getting around the same amount of SP as I did pre-1.18.

[Starlord]

Star you are not understanding this. I know there are many ways to get SP, I get that but nothing now gives as much sp/hour as behest did. You and some others may say that is not true but my experiences show otherwise and I told you in the game yesterday about it.

I know you did, and clearly nothing I say will convince you otherwise sadly