about egi's models

[Dwill]

However you define a 'majority', I guess. Not quite enough data to be representative either way for me. Certainly not for either of us to say based on anecdotes and vague measurements of forum posts. A bit odd of a point considering most of yours are fairly logical.

I don't think the majority of the complaints are that SMN is 'broken'. Just that, aesthetically, it could use some work. Whether or not the design time eventually deems that worthy is up to people posting and 'making waves' as you say.
But yes, anyone complaining SMN is 'broken' is more than a bit daft. It performs it's job very well.

Majority for me is 51%+ so unless Square Enix does a mass-scale survey and releases their data, most point of view that will be mentioned on the forum will be the one of a vocal minority and yes, I include myself. So the only thing we can rely on is past experiences from this game (and other game) to gauge approximately how bad something is. So if enough people start making waves were we see a different threads about it on a daily basis by different people with a lot of different people's input, then we can safely assume that it would be more than just a few people wanting such a change.

[polyhedral]

The EGIs just reminds me too much of the crystals elements you could summon as a summoner in FFXI. And, they have about the same amount of abilities. The only difference, we can set them on obey now. Big whoop.

[Exstal]

Since when replacing a model and its textures is unfeasible and even hard by a dev to a game? It can be done to the customer client by an amateur! And how would it broke the game at a point that people would flame the forum because egis would actually look better? (please don't argue about garuda-egi style, this poor thing look so wrong).
On a side note : Who re you to actually tell people that their ideas re wrongs /unfeasibles or will lead to angers, since neither you nor me have a clue of what will really happen... It's all up to the dev team, all we can do as players is to give "ideas" right here.

I guess I should have been more clear. The egi redesign is something that people may or may not care about in-game however many SMN haters want them to revamp the job completely removing dots in favour of Black Mage-esque damage. I have a problem with devs wasting time on something that isn't broken for people who feel it isn't the way they want it.

Right, would you agree to make garuda-egi actually looking like more garuda or at least being relevant to the main model? And not like a glowing green vulture!
Also, please don't use the "onoes, poor devs got already so many works to do /sadface, let's not make them focus on useless changes /emo-eyes" If they can spare development times for new mounts and fluffy minions design every d*mn patches... They totally can revamp 3 existing models to something better with littles efforts.

I don't agree that Garuda needs a remodel. You give an inch, they'll take a yard. Devs should be able to change the models, but here's the kicker; why? Because a small portion of the playerbase doesn't like the way it looks? That's foolish. I've only come across 3 ideas that were actually good ideas;

1) Contaigon to summoner
2) Enkindle bringing forth primal-esque image (of course not as large)
3) Egi size, but not detail, increased by 50%

[Atomnium]

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Holy wall of texts to once again prove how the obvious things you say re rights, it was really not needed and futile.

Man there is no need to explain how a game company is working to justify your cold behavior against people on this forum, they just want to share ideas... They don't need a math lesson or to know how things work in a company/industry or why it could be a bad idea because x or y or #lore (which make me smile, considering what will happen with ninja and lore at 2.4).
And why? Because they don't care, it's not their jobs to know how things can be added ingame and if it's possible, they just toss feelings and ideas.

On a side note, to repeat myself : If they can spare development times for new mounts and fluffy minions design every d*mn patches... They totally can revamp 3 existing models to something better with littles efforts.

On my own point of view for the Egis' appearance, I think it would help tremendously if they could have HD textures.

Alleluia! The man (or woman, no offense, can't know ) finally gave it's opinion, I wonder though, what do you mean with HD textures? more details and clean cuts into pixels?

[Atomnium]

I have a problem with devs wasting time on something that isn't broken for people who feel it isn't the way they want it.

Respecting that point since I hate to see them wasting so much times into mounts, minions and furnishing when meanwhile we have nothing exciting to do ingame when our coil lockout strike our heads the day of the reset and so... seeing our friends leaving to another game for the rest of the week but it seems... this is what a lot of people want and so, I have no other choices but to respect their tastes.

I've only come across 3 ideas that were actually good ideas;

1) Contaigon to summoner
2) Enkindle bringing forth primal-esque image (of course not as large)
3) Egi size, but not detail, increased by 50%

1 and 2 re the smartest ideas about smn, 3 would make tiny ugly thing even bigger but it could work with "HD textures" like Dwill said.

[Dwill]

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A lot of the ideas are the same repeated things that come every time, especially in the Egis appearance thread and we've been given answers two times: No and no.

Alleluia! The man (or woman, no offense, can't know ) finally gave it's opinion, I wonder though, what do you mean with HD textures? more details and clean cuts into pixels?

It is man indeed. And this is what I mean:

http://imgur.com/0008iYl if you want to zoom in.


This is the game at the highest level of graphical detail possible. Some of these textures looks like they were made in MS Paint.

[Exstal]

Respecting that point since I hate to see them wasting so much times into mounts, minions and furnishing when meanwhile we have nothing exciting to do ingame when our coil lockout strike our heads the day of the reset and so... seeing our friends leaving to another game for the rest of the week but it seems... this is what a lot of people want and so, I have no other choices but to respect their tastes.

Yeah. People went bananas over housing and I went and bought one because I had the gil laying around.

I personally want SCH and SMN to have split stats even if they make it so that your level is attached to the Soul Crystal and not the class but that would probably require a metric fuckton of work to do. Which is sad because my SMN will never get to see much action because I prefer to play SCH and 30 MND is more important. I really want them to remove Contaigon from Garuda and make Titan not a tank. I like Titan's skills but being a tank makes him worthless in any serious group content.

I also like him the best. Floating potato.

[Rysir]

Why is this being brought up again? Yes egis are ugly, but Im pretty sure I remember a reply from the devs that the current egis wont change but later ones will be more visually appealing or something along those lines.

[Alukah]

Read the little wall-o-text above this quote.

Did, I still reiterate what I said, it's your opinion, you are not a dev so you don't know for sure how much time and effort they would use, you don't know how many people they have assigned to that team, you don't know their current plans, so how about let them decide instead of trying to use it here as an argument based on assumptions.

Yes, I disagree with a lot of people. No it's not a secret. Yes people hate it. No I don't care because the people's approval is not what I'm looking for.

It's not just that you disagree with a lot of people, it's that you seem to only seek topics where you can argue against people even if you are not against the idea itself, this topic is a good example, the first sentence of your last paragraph is the "good" kind of response for this thread, a response that actually addresses the topic

On my own point of view for the Egis' appearance, I think it would help tremendously if they could have HD textures. I think it would help alleviate a lot of the issue players have over their looks while using a resource that the rest of the game could use as well.

But instead of posting that, you started off going on a tangent talking about things you don't know (devs resources) just for the sake for arguing.

It's fine to agree or disagree about the current designs of the summons, but arguing for pages about dev resources you don't know, this is the "obvious" kind of behavior I mentioned, in other threads you do exactly the same, picking on something, even if it's off-topic, just for the sake of arguing.

But hey, if you want to keep your crusade against people's opinions just to start arguments (isn't this a form of flaming?) enjoy yourself.

[winxbloom61]

Why is this being brought up again? Yes egis are ugly, but Im pretty sure I remember a reply from the devs that the current egis wont change but later ones will be more visually appealing or something along those lines.

i dont care if a god said that i will keep complaing until all of them look reasonable past present or future ones