"To Improve PvP game balance, the ability Cleric Stance will no longer be usable"

[Divinemight]

So I have to say...You use a JP parse (probably not yours) for a T9 raid, as an example for a SCHs PvP DMG? when the SCH is over twice as low as the lowest DPS which just so happens to be the BRD? (Which is the weakest DPS class in terms of pure damage) The numbers look pretty but 124 dps for a 11min fight is weak, also the WHM healed about twice as much as the SCH so this SCH was not full time healing (overcure was only 14% above the SCH), defiantly DPSing more than heals and that makes 124DPS weak. All that aside though I am more curious to why the SMN has less than the BRD by almost 100. :X
Anyway I am not trying to explain why healer isn't OP in pvp, I give up on trying to reason that with people, just wanted to remark on your post, also I am waiting for the "TANKS ARE OP" thread that should be coming in the next few weeks.

P.S. Please don't say things like "this is also a strong supporting reference" without giving a link and some numbers to go with it, all I read is opinion trying to be masked as data (Not saying you intended to do that but is how I see it at first glance). Also lolST; and I have seen a full WAR + one healer per pt alliance clear it before so.....yeah...7WHM 1 WAR Titan HM....that was fun. All in all though I do appreciate you trying to back up your argument with proof, even if it was faulty, the sign of someone who is fun to talk to and debate with.

I used the word "given" because the information is already given. The parser is actually in this thread about few pages ago. The information about one Warrior Schoalr is also given in other discussion thread (with screenshots). It is not my obligation to repeat that information again and again. Try to enter a discussion thread after read first plage and last page is never a good habit. It is very clearly that you didnt read whole thing, otherwise you wont make statement against Riceisnice. He is talking about Oscar but you are trying to fit in with Rotten Tomato.

What did I said when I provided the dps parser? "Scholar's DPS potential" is what i am able to recall for. I am using a parser from a PvE Scholar in order to analyze a Scholar's DPS potential is reasonable and logical. This PvE Scholar is not even trying to DPS, he is main healer and applied dots and he still able to generate the damage number that is close to SMN without any INT accessories.

The scenario is what if Scholar is not just healing and keep up dots and actually trying to dps with INT accessories and actually have put Rune 2 into dps rotation. Also, I havent take into consideration the amount of INT converted from MND by the Cleric Stance yet and the number is already pretty high.

I dont really care what perspective you are coming from nor care about whether Scholar is OP or not anymore. The ball has been thrown, I have made somone to ask the reason of Cleric Stance removal on open discussion letter, I will just wait for the result. My response is only to provide a support reference to counter your statement because your statement remains vague without a solid reference.

You did mentioned that you are able to provide a calcuation, then please do that. Make an alliance to ST and have few SCH actually running as DPS so we can compare. Dont just give us a vague statement like healer cant never par with DPS when there is already evidence to support that SCH can par with DPS.

PS. Please keep in mind that Arcanist is considered as DPS. The major difference between SMN and SCH is only the healing pet vs dps pet, SCH gear has no INT and SCH has healing job actions and SMN has DPS job action.. The based damage potential from the class Arcanist is still there.