Please add clearance condition to Group Finder

[Ashkendor]

And you will have people without clear but with real experience that can do this, and they are kind enough to fill your party so you and your friends can do the said content and you guys just might 1-shot the whole thing. In either case, it is a tryout by default. So leave things as they are and it will maximize the opportunity for people to come together and play together.

The "clearance condition" is only useful for promoting clear sells and indirectly RMT activity. It doesn't solve the problem of finding skilled players. You will need to work with them to find out what they know and what they don't know. There is not magic solution to that. So leave well enough alone.

As I've stated several times, I'm at a point on Titan EX where I know the entire fight - I have been to 1% - but haven't been able to clear it. If someone has a farm party up, I can pm them and ask if it's alright if I join. If they let me, cool maybe I can get my clear. If they don't, that's entirely their prerogative. People that don't know the fight or that only know part of the fight are not "being kind" by filling up my party and wasting my time with repeated wipes. They are griefing me and the rest of the people in the party. I don't know about your server, but on my server I can put together a party for just about anything at just about any time of day and get a full host of people that are at least reasonably skilled enough to clear the content I'm looking to farm.

[Gucci_Charms]

I don't know about your server, but on my server I can put together a party for just about anything at just about any time of day and get a full host of people that are at least reasonably skilled enough to clear the content I'm looking to farm.

@NyarukoW ^ now that is an example of being proactive.

[Sorciechan]

While it would amuse me to figure out why you would consider my post irony, I think I would rather play FFXIV then to waste time arguing. We have enough in PF(and outside it) that will let you customize your pty. If that's not helping you, then a button sure isn't gonna do it.

[Yoninxi]

I love how NyarukoW ignored my post lol.

Then ignored all the parts she didn't want to answer. LOL

[NyarukoW]

Quick clear parties ....

Quick clear parties should be statics only who have recruited, practiced it over and over, and know each other well, and they might even have substitutes ready to go. The system does NOT owe anyone using the PF to get quick clears. And it certainly does NOT need to allow people to abuse the PF to exclude other people. If you are on the PF, you are begging for help, and beggars can not be choosers. You do NOT have the right to take everyone else for granted. Those ugly PF with multiple clear requirements deserve to the be stuck on the PF forever, if not for the fact they are such good bait for the exact people they didn't want. The "clear condition" will get them the same unskilled people, only now they would have paid some RMT somewhere and bought the clears, in addition to dividing up the player base.

I love how NyarukoW ignored my post lol

What the heck are you talking about?

... Hell what is the point of the Duty Finder ....

The DF is the easy button for match making for a instance without any expectations, other than people are not there to be trolls. And people will need to communicate and negotiate what they can do together to make it work. Additionally, as it stands in this time frame, you can NOT DF any of the SCOB. The DF can be used to learn, but it is not the only place to do it. I would advise people to not join farm parties on principle alone, not to mention those usually disasters waiting to happen because of people with too much ego and entitlement mentality that have the gall to put crap like that on the PF, and I especially tell new people to stay away from there, because they don't need the abuse from those same rude and inconsiderate people.

[Ashkendor]

Quick clear parties should be statics only who have practiced it over and over and know each other well, and they might even have substitutes ready to go. The system does NOT owe anyone using the PF to get quick clears. And it certainly does NOT need to allow people to abuse the PF to exclude other people. If you are on the PF, you are begging for help, and beggars can not be choosers. You do NOT have the right to take everyone else for granted.

This is a complete fallacy. Putting a party in PF doesn't make me a beggar. It basically means I'm looking to network. I don't absolutely need to farm that content right then. If the party doesn't happen, it doesn't happen. While we wait, we craft, we farm atma, we sit and bullshit in mumble and if we end up not filling the party then no sweat, we try it again later. I'd much rather end up scrapping a party due to people not joining than get my hopes up, enter an instance, and have someone flailing around like an idiot and ruining our run.

Those ugly PF with multiple clear requirements deserve to the be stuck on the PF forever, if not for the fact they are such good bait for the exact people they didn't want. The "clear condition" will get them the same unskilled people, only now they would have paid some RMT somewhere and bought the clears, in addition to dividing up the player base.

Speaking of bait... lmao. xD

[Gucci_Charms]

Quick clear parties should be statics only who have practiced it over and over and know each other well, and they might even have substitutes ready to go. The system does NOT owe anyone using the PF to get quick clears. And it certainly does NOT need to allow people to abuse the PF to exclude other people. If you are on the PF, you are begging for help, and beggars can not be choosers. You do NOT have the right to take everyone else for granted. Those ugly PF with multiple clear requirements deserve to the be stuck on the PF forever, if not for the fact they are such good bait for the exact people they didn't want. The "clear condition" will get them the same unskilled people, only now they would have paid some RMT somewhere and bought the clears, in addition to dividing up the player base.

You're basically saying no one should or can use Party Finder unless they want to include and help new players like yourself. LOL.

[NyarukoW]

You're basically saying no one should or can use Party Finder unless they want to include and help new players..

Finally got thru to you. Woo hoo. And that is the correct attitude to take for the PF. You can do tryouts and see if they can farm with you. It is a win-win for all members involved.

[Yoninxi]

Finally got thru to you. Woo hoo. And that is the correct attitude to take for the PF. You can do tryouts and see if they can farm with you. It is a win-win for all members involved.

Except you know , if the new person sucks ass , and they wipe the party and it disbands.

[NyarukoW]

Except you know , if the new person sucks ass , then the party wipes and disbands.

That is perfectly fine. What do you expect? A Miracle? Be real. Seriously.

The "clear condition" isn't going to give you the miracle you want either. The same people will have bought the clears and wipe your party either way. They want those pony/mounts, mirrors, minions, etc. And the collateral damage will be dividing up the player base, promotion of clear sellers, and RMT in turn, as well as sending a message loud and clear to the all new players to stay away, which is clearly something SE does NOT want to do.