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    Let me know when you make a thread that advocates nerfing Animus. I'll be all over that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    Let me know when you make a thread that advocates nerfing Animus. I'll be all over that.
    lol, Animus doesn't need nerfing. Its certainly faster than Atma and Novus.

    Atma averaged 6-8 hours per drop (so 70+ hours total), Animus is less than that per book and there are only 9.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khyra View Post
    lol, Animus doesn't need nerfing. Its certainly faster than Atma and Novus.

    Atma averaged 6-8 hours per drop (so 70+ hours total), Animus is less than that per book and there are only 9.
    Atma takes about 2~5 hours per drop and just the fates for the Animus are about that much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    Atma takes about 2~5 hours per drop and just the fates for the Animus are about that much.
    Animus fates are not all 3-4 hr pops. It's quite literally a total of like 6 fates out of the 27 you have to do that have very long 3+ hr pops. You can knock out an Animus book in a window of 5-6 hrs playing optimally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Animus fates are not all 3-4 hr pops. It's quite literally a total of like 6 fates out of the 27 you have to do that have very long 3+ hr pops. You can knock out an Animus book in a window of 5-6 hrs playing optimally.
    It might be easier now that hunts are a thing. I'm disillusioned by doing Animus when it tough to do. So forgive my ignorance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    It might be easier now that hunts are a thing. I'm disillusioned by doing Animus when it tough to do. So forgive my ignorance.
    They've also reduced the times on some of the fate spawns since Animus's initial conception. Hunts is part of it but you can farm Myth far more easily off running new people through EX Primals or T1-T5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    Atma takes about 2~5 hours per drop and just the fates for the Animus are about that much.
    No, fates you pop in and check and if theyre not there you do something else. You dont have to stand around waiting, lol.

    And I have a log for every Atma, my average was 7.2 hours. You may have gotten better luck, thats nice for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    Atma takes about 2~5 hours per drop and just the fates for the Animus are about that much.
    and there you go ignorantly defining a duration based on your own luck.

    it can be 5 minutes to 65 days because its RNG
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squa11_Leonhart View Post
    and there you go ignorantly defining a duration based on your own luck.

    it can be 5 minutes to 65 days because its RNG
    Do I really need to put a disclaimer on everything? Everything is RNG. Animus books could take 2 hours for a fate or 10 days because you log off when it pops. I'm getting sick of you interjecting this "because RNG" all the time. There's a reason why it's only a small minority of people complaining about Atma and an entire playerbase not complaining at all.

    There is no arguing with you, nor is there with me. Everyone one your side of the argument is providing anecdotal evidence to why Atma needs to be nerfed. I provide anecdotal evidence on why I feel there is no problem. However both of us are wrong anyway. All they needed to do was make it so Atma wasn't a new coat of paint so you actually felt like you're getting an upgrade. However, because I'm not the new generation of MMOer and I played games that were significantly more punishing in terms of RNG, it's simply not possible to convince me that Atma rates are bad.
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    Last edited by Exstal; 10-01-2014 at 01:56 PM.

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    The amount of nerds in here being patronizing just because some people don't like how the atma system works is astounding.
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