Fix ATMA drop [LIKE] Thread

[MrLeonheart]

You may not like it, but it is not poorly designed. It fulfills the purpose it was intended to perfectly, which was to get people doing FATEs.

I'm willing to say that there is a distinct difference between something fulfilling it's intended function and something being well designed. In the case of the Atma grind, you are absolutely right. It fulfills its intended function of getting people to do a thing that the development team has even acknowledged that a lot of people dislike having linked to progress. The bad design kicks in when you realize that there is no hard upper limit on the number of FATEs you will have to do to get even one Atma, let alone all twelve. It makes little sense at this point not to relax the grind for this stage, and this stage only. The other stages are fine and serve very nicely as a long term goal with actual, trackable progress. But you still have the Atma grind, and the very concept of a potentially (though I will allow highly improbably) endless grind just to get to the entry level of the upgrade chain is kind of unattractive.

Hell, if nothing else it'll get people over this hurdle so they can stop moaning about it and start moaning about the Animus books.

[Amused]

Hell, if nothing else it'll get people over this hurdle so they can stop moaning about it and start moaning about the Animus books.

Thanks for reinforcing the point I was making against making Atma easier.

[MrLeonheart]

Thanks for reinforcing the point I was making against making Atma easier.

Tome grinding and following some vague, only tangentially related steps from a book for a few stat points on my weapon every week is something I can get behind. Unfortunately I happen to agree with a whole lot of people that the Atma portion is just plain not enjoyable vOv

[SDaemon]

If you want to catch up, put in the work to do it. Don't ask them for handouts. You have plenty of other weapons you can use to catch up in item level.

This is purely a "they have shiny thing and I want it too, but I don't want to have to work for it like they did" situation.

Be grateful you don't have to speed run Brayflox hard mode for myth to do the books. That was far worse than Atma ever could have dreamed of being.

No one is asking for handouts -_-

[Amused]

No one is asking for handouts -_-

But that's exactly what they're asking for. Hence the wanting to "catch up" bit that people reiterate in these threads.

We all know full well that even though the other stages have gotten easier because of increased tome rates, the moment Atma is nerfed, people will be crying for them to nerf other steps as well. This is exactly what happens every time without fail. It's never just one thing and that's it. They'll move to the next thing they're too lazy to put in the work for after they get what they want.

[Aegis]

Personally, I'd like the relics to be on the same level of grind and accomplishment as in XI (pre-Abby). Essentially, no more than 100 weapons of any one type on the server and make them hands-down the best weapons out there.

Relics used to mean something.

[Daniolaut]

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I clicked "like" cause i agree it could be changed but i dont think its "HORRIBLE at inception and horrible now"

I have 6 atma weapons already, so this doesnt really affect me much, but i'm kinda sick of seeing people moan and complain. It also would be nice if there was a more defined way to get an atma. Hell in my opinion they never should have added sands and oils to hunts and simply unlocked ST sooner and added the sand to it from the beginning, then added atma at a cost of 2,000 allied seals per stone and boom, perfect game imo and i hope everyone elses.

(well, minus needing an auto hide chat log, looped music all across the board [this is Final Fantasy after all, and i dont want to see any dev say "the music was not designed to loop" bs they gave in alpha/beta, because they looped Pharos Sirius and people loved it.. just gotta do it for the rest of the game] and the male miqo'te tail fixed.)

[Destinova]

Atma drop rate is fine.

[dragonfire8974]

I would like to see this changed a bit. I do have 4 more weapons for which I need atmas and it has been 8 hrs of solid fate grinding since I got my last one (over a couple days mind you). Maybe having a stacking buff to the drop rate the refreshes 1/day.

[Exstal]

Why couldn't you let this thread die?