Fix ATMA drop [LIKE] Thread

[Havenchild]

Atma takes about 2~5 hours per drop and just the fates for the Animus are about that much.

Animus fates are not all 3-4 hr pops. It's quite literally a total of like 6 fates out of the 27 you have to do that have very long 3+ hr pops. You can knock out an Animus book in a window of 5-6 hrs playing optimally.

[Exstal]

Animus fates are not all 3-4 hr pops. It's quite literally a total of like 6 fates out of the 27 you have to do that have very long 3+ hr pops. You can knock out an Animus book in a window of 5-6 hrs playing optimally.

It might be easier now that hunts are a thing. I'm disillusioned by doing Animus when it tough to do. So forgive my ignorance.

[Khyra]

Atma takes about 2~5 hours per drop and just the fates for the Animus are about that much.

No, fates you pop in and check and if theyre not there you do something else. You dont have to stand around waiting, lol.

And I have a log for every Atma, my average was 7.2 hours. You may have gotten better luck, thats nice for you.

[Squa11_Leonhart]

Atma takes about 2~5 hours per drop and just the fates for the Animus are about that much.

and there you go ignorantly defining a duration based on your own luck.

it can be 5 minutes to 65 days because its RNG

[Exstal]

and there you go ignorantly defining a duration based on your own luck.

it can be 5 minutes to 65 days because its RNG

Do I really need to put a disclaimer on everything? Everything is RNG. Animus books could take 2 hours for a fate or 10 days because you log off when it pops. I'm getting sick of you interjecting this "because RNG" all the time. There's a reason why it's only a small minority of people complaining about Atma and an entire playerbase not complaining at all.

There is no arguing with you, nor is there with me. Everyone one your side of the argument is providing anecdotal evidence to why Atma needs to be nerfed. I provide anecdotal evidence on why I feel there is no problem. However both of us are wrong anyway. All they needed to do was make it so Atma wasn't a new coat of paint so you actually felt like you're getting an upgrade. However, because I'm not the new generation of MMOer and I played games that were significantly more punishing in terms of RNG, it's simply not possible to convince me that Atma rates are bad.

[kingatlas]

that's what I always tell people. Chasing down higher level fates doesn't, help you stick to the low level ones in the areas where you can because they finish much faster (like WLN). You goal is to hit as many fates as you can, not see how many hours you can wander around.

If your chasing fates in the back of a far area like east shroud you are doing it wrong.

Everyone always says, I grinded 8 hours str8 or whatever, but it wasn't str8. washroom, food, smoke, ect.

Just hit as many fates as you can, its not that bad, plus you can use those GC seal to send your retainers out to farm shards, and sell them on MB to make good cash while you are chasing the Atma.

And to be honest, if you don't like Atma don't continue the rest, because its not any better from there on.
Find another option that you like and have fun.

[Divine_Intervention]

Yep pretty much Maero. I can only hope people will keep it alive and keep the likes going on it. We are a majority of players asking for change to a system that just plain doesn't fit. Thanks for your time in answering this thread.

[Exstal]

I didn't log all my Atma but with the ones I recorded, I have an average time for 2.67 hours. I always did the fates last but since everyone was doing fates at the same time, they did not live long while they were up. But I fully expect my Warrior's Animus to take much longer than the Atma portion.



I didn't record SCH one properly because it was something of an afterthought. But it's my anecdotal evidence versus yours. We'll never agree.

[Khyra]

I didn't log all my Atma but with the ones I recorded, I have an average time for 2.67 hours. I always did the fates last but since everyone was doing fates at the same time, they did not live long while they were up. But I fully expect my Warrior's Animus to take much longer than the Atma portion.
didn't record SCH one properly because it was something of an afterthought. But it's my anecdotal evidence versus yours. We'll never agree.

I mean, we do kind of agree -- its individual per person. Yours took 2.67, mine took 7.2.

Mine for comparison:

Archer - 12 hours
Bull - 5.5 hours
Crab - 9.5 hours
Fish - 9 hours
Goat - 4.5 hours
Lion - 16 hours (this one was insane, I nearly gave up)
Maiden - 2 hours (yay)
Ram - 5 hours
Scales - 3.5 hours
Scorpion - 1 hour (!!!)
Twins - 10.5 hours
Water Eater - 8 hours

So far my Animus has been going much faster than that. (6.8/9 books complete).


That said, I also kind of agree that _absolute_ time on Animus is higher due to Fate spawns, but as I said I can just do a quick tele-check and see if its up and if not do something else. So the actual time spent on the books is much less, I just can't guarantee I can finish them in a night or anything. Whereas Atma you actually have to sit there and grind it out.

[Exstal]

When I was doing Animus (when it was new) it took 9~12 hours per book. It was pretty awful.

Bray was 3 hours
Mobs was 30m~1hr
Dungeons were 2~3 hours (low level players are slow)
Fates varied from 3~6 hours (I was 2/3 on fates and I was camping one in Southern Thana that took 5 hours to spawn =_=)

But it's been said it's nerfed so maybe the second time won't be so painful.