It's about time to add Coil story mode, isn't it ?

[Souljacker]

Many of you have never played other games, so allow me to give you some information on how it works in other places.

No loot, just story = terrible idea and wholly unique to FF players. Tiered raiding still needs *some* level of loot. No, it shouldn't be the best gear you can obtain from beating the most challenging of content, but it *should* be a stepping stone into harder content. The way that it works in WoW is the LFR level of difficulty still has drops, but they are no where near the level of a heroic version of the raid. However, you run LFR to gear for flex\normal, and if all you wanted is the story, it ends there. Then you run normal to gear for heroic. Those that complete heroic are clearly marked, because they get the highest ilvl gear and often the gear is much better looking.

Adding a story mode coil with no drops at all wouldn't work. No one would run it, despite those folks who say they want just the "Story". If it was just that, then they would go into Youtube like some have suggested. Tiered raiding is a great idea, but it needs to be implemented in a way that makes sense and that has been proven to work elsewhere. I know that many people hate WoW (usually irrationally), but they have implemented some incredibly great things that gives all their players a level of difficulty\reward that is appropriate to their individual time commitment and skill level. SE can do that here as well and in some cases already has with tiered Avatar fights. They just need to extend it into the raiding aspect.

[Nici]

Adding a story mode coil with no drops at all wouldn't work. No one would run it, despite those folks who say they want just the "Story". If it was just that, then they would go into Youtube like some have suggested. Tiered raiding is a great idea, but it needs to be implemented in a way that makes sense and that has been proven to work elsewhere. I know that many people hate WoW (usually irrationally), but they have implemented some incredibly great things that gives all their players a level of difficulty\reward that is appropriate to their individual time commitment and skill level. SE can do that here as well and in some cases already has with tiered Avatar fights. They just need to extend it into the raiding aspect.

You have a point...there is already a "story mode" fights in this game as is...specifically in Non Hard Mode Primal Fights, no loot whatsoever...they are there just to advance the main story line, how many run normal primal fights these days over and over and over?...not counting helping friends or winding up doing it cause of roulette?, ive read through most of this thread and both sides have made some valid points, i would say SE and Yoshi's team should come up with a Coil Lite(sounds like a new alcoholic beer/beverage) version....which is already implemented in turns 1-5 with the echo, Do we really want something easier than that?...if so maybe Yoshi's team should tweak the fights a bit more for those that are still having trouble. *shrugs*

[IveraIvalice]

ive read through most of this thread and both sides have made some valid points, i would say SE and Yoshi's team should come up with a Coil Lite(sounds like a new alcoholic beer/beverage) version....which is already implemented in turns 1-5 with the echo, Do we really want something easier than that?...if so maybe Yoshi's team should tweak the fights a bit more for those that are still having trouble. *shrugs*

That's what I think they should do. It's easy to beat this stuff for a lot of people but not everyone is as fortunate. If they just tweaked some of the mechanics in the fights so it's easy enough to do, I don't think it would be bad. Not for loot or achievements and certainly not for bragging rights, but just to experience the story for themselves.

So many say it's a waste of dev time but taking into consideration there's a huge amount of players that can't enjoy the coil story because of the difficulty of the content, time needed, static creation or whatever the reason, and new content that comes out will just push those people further from the story. It's just another thing that they can't experience.
Thinking of it that way, it's not wasted dev time unless your thinking of only yourself (not you specifically).

I don't see any harm in it, I can give up some of my "dev time" so that these guys can at least experience the story. I'm not so selfish that I will demand new content for me right now! When every new thing just pushes people that much further

[CUTS3R]

i would say SE and Yoshi's team should come up with a Coil Lite(sounds like a new alcoholic beer/beverage)

Coca Coila Lite as a new CUL 3 star recipe please ?

[Nici]

Coca Coila Lite as a new CUL 3 star recipe please ?

Oh please that would totally be an Alchemy 3 star recipe. =P