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  1. #371
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    Adamant Ackerman
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    What happened to the days when people would rise up to a challenge instead of asking for a nerf to the content? The average item level of your average player is already higher than the maximum item level obtainable at the time that Turn 5 was current on top of a 20% Echo buff. One-shot mechanics in this game are an absolute joke as well. The only mechanics like that on Turn 5 are Twisters and having the Dreadknight reach you. If you are incapable of holding a movement key for a couple of seconds and not running into anyone else, you have bigger issues. If your groups are incapable of bursting down a single add in the 10 seconds it takes to get to you, you need to seek out better players.

    I understand that everyone has different circumstances as to why they may not be able to complete content as quickly as others, whether it be time constraints, internet connections, or anything else, but I can't say I agree with a "story mode" for content that is already laughably easy. The story, along with the gear and sense of accomplishment, should serve as an incentive to get in there and try to complete the content. Asking for developers to put in a bypass screams "laziness" to me.

    There's a guy named "Aieron" who plays League of Legends who is disabled and has to hit keys by holding a pen with his mouth. If he can get to Gold 5, I'm pretty sure there isn't a single reason (Barring aforementioned internet problems) people can't clear Turn 5 with an echo buff.
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  2. #372
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    Exstal's Avatar
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    Shichi Mamura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiwayari View Post
    __Savage version: For the very engaged raider__
    - Takes a very long time to complete <- this is why this content works, even though there is no incentive to complete it more than once.
    - Gives the same loot as normal version
    - Gives a title (the only reason to do this, beside having fun of course)
    Savage Coil is currently a waste of development time because there is no reason to go in. More work for same reward. Path of least resistance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Where's your supporting evidence whilst calling me a liar?
    When I read this, I told them that and they laughed at me. It's quite literally the first time anyone has ever claimed the story was a reward. There are quite a few people who skip the cutscenes after clearing Coil because that isn't even on their mind when doing the fights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    I hope that at some point SE will release the number of players having defeated each fight. As for T5, it's hard for me to believe not that many people would have beaten it by now. I just checked the numbers for my own LS and out of 30 currently active members only 4 haven't beaten it (that I know of). Would like to hear corresponding numbers for other FC/LS if anyone wants to bother, as the estimates of player % who have beaten it have been thrown around here.
    I'm pretty sure 2 out of 3 of my linkshells have 100% T5 completion rate.

    Quote Originally Posted by SevValen View Post
    You know whats funny about my post you commented .... a mod deleted it -_- first they ban me now delete my individual post
    I didn't report you because I don't have thin skin...but someone else found it offensive? That's comical.
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    Last edited by Exstal; 10-01-2014 at 12:46 AM.

  3. #373
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    Wizhard's Avatar
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    Id rather have them make more turns each patch than waste dev time to create yet another mode for coil.
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  4. #374
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    Myrhn Shirayuki
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    You can have story mode + loot + accest to next coil for 700k~
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    I love the official forums, they tell you to use the search for thread about what you wanted to talk but when you use it they judge for necro a thread.


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    IXZERO's Avatar
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    Look out guys, if we say to much about how we think you have to work for it the thread will get deleted.

    ____________-

    Why such a short message? because im getting tired of this and they will get there way either way.
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    Last edited by IXZERO; 10-01-2014 at 01:02 AM.

  6. #376
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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamantium View Post
    There's a guy named "Aieron" who plays League of Legends who is disabled and has to hit keys by holding a pen with his mouth. If he can get to Gold 5, I'm pretty sure there isn't a single reason (Barring aforementioned internet problems) people can't clear Turn 5 with an echo buff.
    I skipped the belittling part to skip directly to this : are you even serious ? "Oh look that guy is amazing you should feel ashamed of no being able to do this other thing totally unrelated"
    get real guy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    I'm pretty sure 2 out of 3 of my linkshells have 100% T5 completion rate.
    that's because the best players tend to gather together. Path of least resistance you said. Gather the best around not to ever bother about the skill of the people you may meet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Myrhn View Post
    You can have story mode + loot + accest to next coil for 700k~
    If I ever see you complaining one day about the RMT problem, I'll laugh hard. really hard. For your info, a T9 clear with your "solution" is 35 millions. Do you even expect someone to have that ?
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  7. #377
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamantium View Post
    There's a guy named "Aieron" who plays League of Legends who is disabled and has to hit keys by holding a pen with his mouth. If he can get to Gold 5, I'm pretty sure there isn't a single reason (Barring aforementioned internet problems) people can't clear Turn 5 with an echo buff.
    Does he solo que? That's an important detail here lol.
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  8. #378
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    I skipped the belittling part to skip directly to this : are you even serious ? "Oh look that guy is amazing you should feel ashamed of no being able to do this other thing totally unrelated"
    get real guy.
    I'm completely serious. It has less to do with skill and more to do with perseverance. The fact of the matter is that the story you want to experience is locked behind content that has already had both developer-implemented nerfs (Echo buff) and natural nerfs (increases in strength of gear). The amount of effort required is ridiculously minuscule compared to what it used to require. If people are not willing to put in effort, they don't get rewards.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mugiawara
    Does he solo que? That's an important detail here lol.
    I didn't follow him too long, but he was solo queueing a bit when he started out. Maybe he had duo partners when he got more popular, since he became quite the celebrity over Reddit when he began streaming on Twitch.tv
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    Last edited by Adamantium; 10-01-2014 at 01:12 AM.

  9. #379
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    Sileas Goode
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    If I ever see you complaining one day about the RMT problem, I'll laugh hard. really hard. For your info, a T9 clear with your "solution" is 35 millions. Do you even expect someone to have that ?
    I thought we're talking about T5? Are you speaking for the people who have not cleared T5 or for yourself?
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  10. #380
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    Vekial Laike
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    I don't work for SE but I have labored hard and have managed to deliver your wishes, please enjoy "story mode" coil

    Turn 1 to start of turn 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JToLp7OUMjM
    After TT dies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt4PiXWyREU
    Turn 6 to 9: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6wpdWxn2cA

    Story mode complete.
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