Urgently Change your Approach SE

[WeiShan]

Would like to point out that 1.23 was YoshiP's attempt at fixing Tanaka's train wreck.

I always find it funny how many doom and gloom posts there can be. Going on and on about how the game's dying, players unsubbing in droves, and how 1.23 n 11 had it right... and yet, FF14 is currently sitting at 10 times the subs it had prior to 2.0.

I dunno bout you but seems to me YoshiP knows exactly what he's doing.


EDIT: My bad. WeiShan post. Shouldn't have even bothered. /sigh

So you mean Beats headphones/Mcdonalds are good things because they sold a lot ?

guess you never heard or own some Stax or the Orpheus HE90

[Tiggy]

So you mean Beats headphones/Mcdonalds are good things because they sold a lot ?

guess you never heard or own some Stax or the Orpheus HE90

This doesn't help your argument at all. The fact is the market speaks. People pay for what they want. You're OPINION if it's worth while or not doesn't matter one bit if enough people do like it. You are not the only person in the world and your opinion is not the most important.

I always find it funny how many doom and gloom posts there can be. Going on and on about how the game's dying, players unsubbing in droves, and how 1.23 n 11 had it right... and yet, FF14 is currently sitting at 10 times the subs it had prior to 2.0.

I also find it funny that most of the doom and gloom or complaints come from the same people. There are a couple of dozen repeat complainers I've seen in the last year and maybe another 100 names that popup from time to time, but the fact is there is an incredibly vast amount of the player base that doesn't dislike it enough to even come here to say anything. It's a very vocal minority.

[Exstal]

So you mean Beats headphones/Mcdonalds are good things because they sold a lot ?

guess you never heard or own some Stax or the Orpheus HE90

That's exactly why.

[Leeloo]

So you mean Beats headphones/Mcdonalds are good things because they sold a lot ?

guess you never heard or own some Stax or the Orpheus HE90

It's all been downhill for McDonald's since they decided to discontinue Hot Mustard sauce.

[Thayos]

Hopefully, ARR keeps doing what it's doing, but just expands on it when the expansion comes out.

[Theresa]

I don't bother with ATMA or Personal Housing, I bother with the fact they are not willing to give us better servers.

[Tiggy]

Level3, Verizon, and Cogent have been well documented to be points of failure on the internet lately. (Use http://www.internetpulse.net/ during prime time to see how bad it gets lately) It's probably that by connecting to Japan's data centers you are entirely bypassing those nodes. So it makes sense that you potentially would see the problem going away by changing data centers based entirely on where you live in the country.

Also, you must consider that some ISP and backbone providers throttle certain kinds of data and FFXIV seems to fall prey to that.

It's these two things that make programs like WTFast so effective. You can route around the bad nodes, and it masks your data so it doesn't appear to be a video game therefore bypassing the packet sniffer's attempts to throttle.


TLDR: It's a more complex issue than "I have lag so the servers suck." Google around a bit and you'll see other games are having this problem too.

Side Note: Ever notice how the NA Data Centers go down for X reasons while the JP Data Centers remain up? That alone should explain everything.

No it doesn't. It's a physically distinct location. One can go down without effecting the other for various different reasons. It doesn't begin to explain anything.

[SythSynner]

No it doesn't. It's a physically distinct location. One can go down without effecting the other for various different reasons. It doesn't begin to explain anything.

Right, this is what I mean. Now I stop playing a bit after 2.1 came out, I just got back into the game about a month ago. So plz, once again, correct me if I am wrong. But between Headstart and 2.1 NA Data Centers went down often. (If I am not mistaken, more then the JP Data Centers). While I been back I have again seen where the NA was down while JP was up.

What I was trying to say is... wouldn't the cause of the bad servers be due to crap hardware (or whatever you want to call it) in said Data Center?

Would you want to ride in a High Speed Car or an old 1990s Dodge Neon?

[Tiggy]

Right, this is what I mean. Now I stop playing a bit after 2.1 came out, I just got back into the game about a month ago. So plz, once again, correct me if I am wrong. But between Headstart and 2.1 NA Data Centers went down often. (If I am not mistaken, more then the JP Data Centers). While I been back I have again seen where the NA was down while JP was up.

Yes, the game had issues back at launch that were definitely server related. Odin crashing whole servers as a good example. This problem has gone away completely since then and hasn't been a problem in a while. The only time we see problems are when literally hundreds of players are in the same place and only Hunts have done that recently.

You also need to remember that one big mistake they made was underestimating the North American interest in the game. They didn't have enough servers ready to handle the sheer amount of people who bought the game. That's why they launched so many new servers within that first month, and had to stop online sales of the game for a few weeks. This was a large reason why the servers went down so often.

Really though how many MMO's nail this on day 1? Most have issues with connections and server stability in the first weeks.

[SythSynner]

-snippy snip

That is true. I also forgot about most of what you said. You make a point. Thank you for explaining without being rude. +1