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    Quote Originally Posted by Einheri View Post
    I was referring more to the abilities listed for Barich Fendsor. He has several defensive abilities you can see in the link with High HP and evasion. In my earlier post I quoted Yoshi from an interview saying he liked the Machinist from tactics. When I looked it up I found that there is a foundation for the class being a tank. I am not saying Mustardio ; ) was a tank in tactics or the gun class will be. Just sharing some thoughts on what I found related to what Yoshi said.
    Other than him being a "Boss" I don't recall him having particularly high HP or evasion. He was still just like Mustadio with long range damage and crippling. Actually after looking at Barich's page, it doesn't list any of his stats. The states you gave are for Mustadio NOT Barich. ALL of the main character's have decent evasion rates. Heck Orlandeau has 20% as well as Cloud for instance.
    Mustadio's only "Defensive" ability is to keep his gear from being broken... so....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantitrach View Post
    Other than him being a "Boss" I don't recall him having particularly high HP or evasion. He was still just like Mustadio with long range damage and crippling. Actually after looking at Barich's page, it doesn't list any of his stats. The states you gave are for Mustadio NOT Barich. ALL of the main character's have decent evasion rates. Heck Orlandeau has 20% as well as Cloud for instance.
    Mustadio's only "Defensive" ability is to keep his gear from being broken... so....
    Again I am only speculating on what a machinist could be in FF14 based on this quote:
    E3 Interview-
    MMORPG: What’s your favorite Final Fantasy class that is not in Final Fantasy XIV.

    Yoshi - P: I really like Cecil’s story from Final Fantasy IV, so the Dark Knight. From Final Fantasy Tactics, the Machinist.

    The link from that previous post is for the machinist job. It has both Mastadio and Barich listed as playing the class and continues to list several of the skills available. 1 to Mustadio and 3 to Barich. I felt it was safe to conclude the HP being listed as high applied to both as well. I will concede that 18% evade is not high for the tactics game. I wish feather foot was 18%.

    Mustadio's page shows he isn't as defense oriented as Barich but he does have access to SoulBind.

    Also machinists Cid from FF4 and Edgar from FF6 are high Def and phys stat focused. However they both focus more on melee weapons, Cid could use Bows but the two-hand Hammer was his tool of choice. Both could use shields.

    With the gun models already in game being one handed could you see them using a shield in the off hand? Duel wield for DPS? What do you think if they go with the oft suggested Chemist to fill the healer role, Potion gun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Einheri View Post
    The link from that previous post is for the machinist job. It has both Mastadio and Barich listed as playing the class and continues to list several of the skills available. 1 to Mustadio and 3 to Barich. I felt it was safe to conclude the HP being listed as high applied to both as well. I will concede that 18% evade is not high for the tactics. I wish feather foot was 18%.
    Barich isn't playable though, he's an enemy. Mustadio is the only playable one and that's where the stats are known from.


    Quote Originally Posted by Einheri View Post
    Mustadio's page shows he isn't as defense oriented as Barich but he does have SoulBind.
    Meh, SoulBind is from FFT: WoL, for PSP, not the real FFT. I honestly didn't care for it as much because so much was changed. Won't comment on that deviation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Einheri View Post
    With the gun models already in game being one handed could you see them using a shield in the off hand? Duel wield for DPS? What do you think if they go with the oft suggested Chemist to fill the healer role, Potion gun?

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    The logo we have in game shows two crossed guns. I would assume the gun class to be DPS based. Maybe have it support though, like BRD. Rather than buffing team mates though, have it cripple enemies. THAT is in line with Machinist job from FFT. Leg Aim, Arm Aim, etc. It personally makes the most sense and since its in line with how ARC/BRD is treated. DPS class turns in to DPS/Buff. DPS class turns in to DPS/Debuff. I like it. The second best option is for a healing class/Debuff class. If we go to the wiki and check out guns There is little the gun isn't used for other than damage. When you do run into it being used NOT for DPS Its either for Debuffs/Buffs/Heals.
    FFT: Guns can be equipped by Chemists, Orators, Onion Knights, the special jobs Machinist and Sky Pirate, and any character that has equipped the ability "Equip Guns". Chemists - were used to heal, Orators (Mediator - Original is so much better) - to buff/debuff, Onion Knights - are... special.... Machinist - was discussed, and Balthier the Sky Pirate - should be a given, but he's DPS.
    FFX-2: The Gunner dressphere uses a hand-gun called the Tiny Bee. Another dressphere, Gun Mage, uses a gun with a large open ring in place of a barrel that allows its user to learn and use the abilities of some fiends. The Alchemist Dressphere also uses a burst firing rifle. Gunner - DPS, Gun Mage - DPS, Alchemist - Heal.
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