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    Lyrica_Ashtine's Avatar
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    Sadako Yamamura
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    Marauder Lv 1
    I have no actual sources or data to agree or disprove the Spell speed issue, so I'll just let that case rest for now.

    That aside, I find it interesting how you assume you'll have 100% fey glow up based on the stat weights (actual values drop slightly, but that's not the point here)

    I just played around with Ariyala a bit, you piqued my interest about the whole i90 accessories having more weight. I ended up creating two builds: One with i90 accessories (2 accuracy melded, 3 "damage" melded) and the default i110 set. While aiming not to overcap accuracy too much.
    This resulted in the follow stats increases for each build:
    i90 accessory build (4 accuracy over cap)
    +163 crit (34,07)
    +209 Spell speed (56,43)
    +109 determination (26,81)
    +278 intelligence (278)
    Combined value is 395,31

    i110 build (3 accuracy over cap)
    +168 crit (35,112)
    +178 spell speed (48,06)
    +42 determination (10,33)
    +303 intelligence (303)
    Combined value is 396,50

    Conclusion: After spending millions and millions of gil or hours and hours of spiritbinding, you're at -1,19 value compared to the full i110 build. I'm still not convinced.

    ps: Interesting how we ended up from the food conversation to the i90 accessories (not that I'm complaining, gives me something to do)
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    Last edited by Lyrica_Ashtine; 09-11-2014 at 09:34 AM.

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    HaroldSaxon's Avatar
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    Harold Saxon
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    Odin
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    I have no actual sources or data to agree or disprove the Spell speed issue, so I'll just let that case rest for now.

    That aside, I find it interesting how you assume you'll have 100% fey glow up based on the stat weights (actual values drop slightly, but that's not the point here)

    I just played around with Ariyala a bit, you piqued my interest about the whole i90 accessories having more weight. I ended up creating two builds: One with i90 accessories (2 accuracy melded, 3 "damage" melded) and the default i110 set. While aiming not to overcap accuracy too much.
    This resulted in the follow stats increases for each build:
    i90 accessory build (4 accuracy over cap)
    +163 crit (34,07)
    +209 Spell speed (56,43)
    +109 determination (26,81)
    +278 intelligence (278)
    Combined value is 395,31

    i110 build (3 accuracy over cap)
    +168 crit (35,112)
    +178 spell speed (48,06)
    +42 determination (10,33)
    +303 intelligence (303)
    Combined value is 396,50

    Conclusion: After spending millions and millions of gil or hours and hours of spiritbinding, you're at -1,19 value compared to the full i110 build. I'm still not convinced.

    ps: Interesting how we ended up from the food conversation to the i90 accessories (not that I'm complaining, gives me something to do)
    Try this set:

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/NSCG

    4 Acc over the cap
    Int: +260
    Crit: +183
    Det: +122
    SS: +278

    Combined Value:
    (0.246*112)+(0.209*183)+(0.295*278)+260=407.809

    Please let me know if i've done the math wrong or misunderstood the way you've worked it out. The only HA drops you need to RNJesus for are the Weapon, Chest and Legs (I'm still praying). With regards to gil; I did this all on Faerie, where Materia prices were pretty cheap; and I made my money either selling carries, spiritbinding and/or crafting.

    Conversely, Puro's BIS is:

    Int: +303
    Crit: +186
    Det: +38
    SS: +178

    Total: (0.246*38)+(0.209*186)+(0.295*178)+303 = 403.732

    Both done without food; Puro's BIS is under accuracy and needs Apkallu Omelette (+27 crit), mine would be Sacherotte (+30SS and +6 det)
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    Athenia Noirterel
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    Cerberus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon View Post




    Please let me know if i've done the math wrong or misunderstood the way you've worked it out. The only HA drops you need to RNJesus for are the Weapon, Chest and Legs (I'm still praying). With regards to gil; I did this all on Faerie, where Materia prices were pretty cheap; and I made my money either selling carries, spiritbinding and/or crafting.

    Conversely, Puro's BIS is:

    Int: +303
    Crit: +186
    Det: +38
    SS: +178

    Total: (0.246*38)+(0.209*186)+(0.295*178)+303 = 403.732

    Both done without food; Puro's BIS is under accuracy and needs Apkallu Omelette (+27 crit), mine would be Sacherotte (+30SS and +6 det)

    its +42 det on the lvl 110 gear so the result is 404,761.
    What u really Forget about is, that ss has that 0,295 Rating ONLY in a perfect fight (no Interrupts) AND with selene. U simply cant give ss that high Rating cause u always get interrupted.
    For me DET is as good as SS and that means the ilvl 110 set is better.
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