Requirement for Coil Not needed for Expansion But...

[coldreactive]

a lot of your "too difficult" complaints come from the fact that you dont know the fight and havent been in a group good enough to clear, and if your using DF and getting a party full of randoms, thats your biggest problem.

not trying to say you suck, but it might not be that its too hard as a raid, but that its too hard to learn the phases because everyone quits too fast.

I'm sorry if I'm incapable of finding a static that will take a newbie for a one-time run so I never do it again. I just don't like people who stonewall others by forcing them to watch a video or read a text guide. I'm also not keen on big FCs / Guild, especially with the voice chat requirement and website sign-up requirement, usually. Some FCs also advertise they aren't hardcore, when they actually are as well, which upsets me.

not to sound negative but I have had decent luck clearing it with the duty finder. its not terribly hard if you simply go in and learn what to do, yes people drop the party and you get a new person but its step by step and when you are comfortable enough put together a party finder to clear it.. on top of that next major patch an even higher item level will be here (probably 130+) which will not only increase players survivability but their output. So on top of the echo you will probably have an additional 10~15% HP on top of the echo (which I believe is sitting at 25% right now). I really dont see what you want them to do? Are you after just walking in and the boss killing itself? As far as coil 2 goes... I have done coil 2 one time, my first and only time I went as a WHM and I did T6-8 and learned a bit of T9. I will probably eventually try to do it some more but I am not sure yet as I dont consider myself a raider.

On Ragnarok, people ask if you're new to Coil, and if you've seen videos / etc. They will immediately kick no matter what if you haven't. I've watched a video twice, and read a text guide, but I've forgotten about half of the fight within just a few hours. I'm not going to bother to try and queue or find a static / etc. (I've even set my search information to say I won't do turn 5 or beyond ever.)