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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurimi View Post
    Honestly if thats how you feel then noone can really help you. If it comes up one day to needing Coil cleared for something and you cant do it really you only have yourself to hold to fault. If you wish to cancel your sub then thats your choice but I highly doubt SE is going to make coil a single cutscene that you just talk to an NPC then skip so you can do all the stuff that needs it if there ever is anything (which is unlikely anyway).
    Then why not pull a demon wall, like said above? I'll be honest, the dreadknights and snakes are the only reasons why I'm no good with it, as well as the 5x liquid hell. Already tried turn 5 three times, one of which was with a static of someone else's, which failed completely (Twice)
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldreactive View Post
    Then why not pull a demon wall, like said above? I'll be honest, the dreadknights and snakes are the only reasons why I'm no good with it, as well as the 5x liquid hell. Already tried turn 5 three times, one of which was with a static of someone else's, which failed completely (Twice)
    its already been given nerfs in the form of a large player buff. in the end its still a raid and its a good place to go with people to learn about mechanics and what to expect from raids and to help teach them how their job works in a raid setting. I really dont know why liquid hell at the end (run away from twin, or snakes (most groups kill the 2 small ones before the 2nd divebomb set that I have been in) dreadknights I guess without a stun or a miasma from a sch or a smn it could be a bit annoying but really if twisters and divebombs arent killing you then you should be more than capable of winning if you tried. Those 2 are the 1 shot kills that catch people if they lack attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldreactive View Post
    Then why not pull a demon wall, like said above? I'll be honest, the dreadknights and snakes are the only reasons why I'm no good with it, as well as the 5x liquid hell. Already tried turn 5 three times, one of which was with a static of someone else's, which failed completely (Twice)
    because 110 gear and 20% boost is enough nerfs already ? nerfing it more is counterproductive, T5 is a boss that teach players some mechanics for future encounters , if u dont learn anything from it , then the Turn has no purpouse.
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    The only thing I agree with OP is that it's hard to ask others for help, at least it is a pain for me to ask for help. But to say that echo doesn't help and SE need to remove mechanics such as twisters or divebombs is plain dumb. I cleared coil 5 just recently due to big help from echo that makes dreadknight phase super short and practically you just only need to be able to avoid divebombs and twisters now - all dps checks are long gone already in T5.
    About "casual players having hard time in endgame content" - I literally am staring mouth open at some of my fc members that beat content like monsters now though even 2 weeks ago they derped at everything they did. People that actually try as best they can to learn at least from their own mistakes - they do beat endgame content and get more skilled and self confident for the next content to come out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldreactive View Post
    Already tried turn 5 three times, one of which was with a static of someone else's, which failed completely (Twice)
    Only 3 tries, and you wonder why you haven't beaten it yet. That's ridiculous.

    Why do you want to beat t5 anyway. There is no flowers and sunshine after it. After t5 is t6 and true there are flowers but not the kind you would enjoy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edli View Post
    Only 3 tries, and you wonder why you haven't beaten it yet. That's ridiculous.

    Why do you want to beat t5 anyway. There is no flowers and sunshine after it. After t5 is t6 and true there are flowers but not the kind you would enjoy.
    Lore / cutscenes is what I'm after. I did turn 3 and whatnot normally because of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldreactive View Post
    Lore / cutscenes is what I'm after.
    Spoilers, they're not that good. Coil is all about the fights, if cutscenes is the only reason you're doing this then don't bother. Not worth your time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edli View Post
    Spoilers, they're not that good. Coil is all about the fights, if cutscenes is the only reason you're doing this then don't bother. Not worth your time.
    See opening post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Amberion View Post
    Unfortunately, the game style of MMORPGs have changed over the years. Before you used to be in close nit LS/guild that would help with such things. But as a lot of people have said on the forum, they are mostly only used for chat room now.

    The longer a content is considered old, the harder it will be finding random people who wants to team up. That is one of the reasons I dislike newer MMORPGs getting rid of forced community building.
    Same, especially in open world pvp MMORPGs like WildStar, World of Warcraft, RIFT. I will be transferring to the Mateus World in the meantime, and see if I can't complete it with DF only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldreactive View Post
    See opening post.



    Same, especially in open world pvp MMORPGs like WildStar, World of Warcraft, RIFT. I will be transferring to the Mateus World in the meantime, and see if I can't complete it with DF only.
    No offense, but I don't think server changing will do anything more than waste your 18 dollars in this case, using DF, you'd get put into the same pit that you'd get put into where you are now, I -just- beat T5 myself, and most my FC is still struggling with it, it's something you just have to bash your head against over and over and over again, don't give up, keep trying, try some more, you will eventually get it

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon View Post
    almost took me 2 months to beat t5 1st time and never gave up

    and you want to beat it in 3 tries?
    That's about how long my FC has been at it now, I only beat it because a friend's group needed a replacement healer so I went along with them to help them clear it out
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