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    Brine Gildchaff
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    Malboro
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tolmos View Post
    So basically, people designate someone in their own party as the "designated puller" to guarantee their own credit, and then rage/send angry tells/blacklist because someone else gets that cookie, instead, by pulling?

    Yay entitlement!
    And what if the party doing the designating is the group that actually put in the effort and found the mob? Wouldn't that by definition -entitle- them to that reward, that someone else leeching off of the info they were nice enough to spread around decided they would take for themselves? Just the other day, I personally found Agrippa (Mor Dhona S-rank) out for a stroll in the Tangle. I sent out the alarm and invited people who were asking for a party invite until my group was full. I stood there, waited a while for people to show up, then all of a sudden I notice Agrippa turn purple. I run in, as Shield PLD, and do my damnedest to get enmity... and ended up with five seals. Not really seeing how that's okay.

    I feel I should clarify: the people described here are behaving unacceptably and screaming or sending abusive tells or blacklisting is not okay. But to call this sort of thing "entitlement" is ridiculous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    Nobody complained in the shout channel. Nobody.
    Instead, I got a flow of thanking messages from a lot of people. "Thanks for the reset!" they were saying.
    I'm gonna be frank here. If you pull this kind of thing with a huge-damage mob like Marraco or a petrifier like Zanig'oh, you're not gonna get thanked, you're gonna get reported, because resetting on a mob like that screws over whoever got killed/petrified for longer than the mob's average lifetime. I speak from personal experience here, I -found- Maahes once and the SMN with me didn't have a lot of time, so we shouted and then pulled after ~30 seconds. The horde proceeded to reset it TWICE, and as the party's tank I was petrified BOTH times, destroying any chance I might have had to build up enmity and get anything besides "you poked it once" credit.
    This has been discussed to death on other threads, and we even had Enkatreia weigh in on it: resetting a mob can be considered harassment and can leave you subject to punishment.
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    Last edited by Brine_Gildchaff; 09-10-2014 at 02:18 AM.