Time to bring back 1.23 multi-job relic style dungeons

[AttacKat]

Run run run, sleep the frog, run run run, stand on circle and sleep. repeat until getting to a boss, change job and kill it.

That was how it did work due to the lack of speed run prevention; more of an issue of old XIV engine that is no longer an issue in ARR.

But the main difference is your party make up cannot consist of just one BiS job for each member, and all of your members needs to be able to perform 3-4 different jobs in order for you to even think about doing the dungeon. You have cases where at one boss, you need to have a WAR to tank, and at another, you need that PLD, at the same time at some phases you need that BLM while in another you must have your MNK.

In other words, your party better be ready to deal with the different strengths of the bosses, so you must be able to utilize the difference strengths of your jobs. It isn't just about knowing when to dodge this, when to move to the left, and when to avoid being pushed off of that edge.

[Cutie_McSnuggles]

But the main difference is your party make up cannot consist of just one BiS job for each member, and all of your members needs to be able to perform 3-4 different jobs in order for you to even think about doing the dungeon. You have cases where at one boss, you need to have a WAR to tank, and at another, you need that PLD, at the same time at some phases you need that BLM while in another you must have your MNK.

This is exactly what's wrong with that system though. It changes the game from, "You have the freedom to play any job you want." to, "You MUST play every job."

[AttacKat]

This is exactly what's wrong with that system though. It changes the game from, "You have the freedom to play any job you want." to, "You MUST play every job."

It isn't a must, it is about introducing content that requires you to play better and utilize the multi-job ability this MMO has that others doesn't, and not just the same old "move, dodge, avoid" game play. It is about we have a multi-job character, so "use it, or lose it". Right now, it is not being used, and it is making ARR no different then other MMOs.

Besides, you are at end-game, and you still only play one job since the HARD modes?

[whoopeeragon]

Besides, you are at end-game, and you still only play one job since the HARD modes?

Is it a crime for someone to stick to one job they really like? Why must it be a necessity to get all classes to 50? Not everyone is a completionist, some people probably enjoy one job enough that they don't feel the need to level up another one. Who are you to judge them on that?

[AttacKat]

Is it a crime for someone to stick to one job they really like? Why must it be a necessity to get all classes to 50? Not everyone is a completionist, some people probably enjoy one job enough that they don't feel the need to level up another one. Who are you to judge them on that?

What you are suggesting is horrible gameplay, No body wants that crap, i refuse to play a game that FORCES me to play jobs i may not even like. If they did go to that style of play this game would die very quickly.

This is what makes XIV different from other MMOs, the character's ability to do multi-jobs with just one character. If people do not want this game to use it to its advantage, then they need to stop complaining about "how ARR is just like other MMO and it is themepark".

[Delsus]

This is what makes XIV different from other MMOs, the character's ability to do multi-jobs with just one character. If people do not want this game to use it to its advantage, then they need to stop complaining about "how ARR is just like other MMO and it is themepark".

It's being used by the people who want to use it, I frequently switch between my BRD and DRG when I want to as they are my best geared jobs, I am gearing my BRD via ST, when I pick up second coil I can gear my DRG more via that, and for now I can gear another job with myth/soldiery gear, or even one myth one soldiery.

Then I can have two more jobs geared enough for more content, so I can then choose to play out of 4 jobs. The system is designed to give players choice if they want to play one job let them, there are still many players who choose to play multiple jobs.

It was proven in 1.0 that if we allow job changed within dungeons we will see "DPS must have BRD or BLM and MNK leveled and geared" and then for example BLM or BRD to AoE trash down and for any bosses with a lot of adds, and MNK for single target bosses. How is forcing party setups to two or three jobs only using the system to it's advantage, it's just locking players out that only enjoy playing certain jobs.

[Darkobra]

This is what makes XIV different from other MMOs, the character's ability to do multi-jobs with just one character. If people do not want this game to use it to its advantage, then they need to stop complaining about "how ARR is just like other MMO and it is themepark".

If they are it doesn't mean your idea is the right one. There's a reason the game died back then. There's a reason this is scrapped. There's a reason it's successful now. Cause and effect.

[Luvbunny]

This is what makes XIV different from other MMOs, the character's ability to do multi-jobs with just one character. If people do not want this game to use it to its advantage, then they need to stop complaining about "how ARR is just like other MMO and it is themepark".

Sorry - thank's for the offer but I'll have to pass. I like the current system for FF14, it is extremely FOCUSED and tuned to perfection. Yes, it is all about the mechanic and understanding how it works, just like every other action oriented game out there. I DO NOT want a game where the players force you to level certain VIP jobs of the moment or you are never going to get anything done or making any progress. Here is looking at you FFXI, where if you don't have jobs XYZ, you might as well quit.

[Volcano]

It isn't a must, it is about introducing content that requires you to play better and utilize the multi-job ability this MMO has that others doesn't, and not just the same old "move, dodge, avoid" game play. It is about we have a multi-job character, so "use it, or lose it". Right now, it is not being used, and it is making ARR no different then other MMOs.

Besides, you are at end-game, and you still only play one job since the HARD modes?

What you are suggesting is horrible gameplay, No body wants that crap, i refuse to play a game that FORCES me to play jobs i may not even like. If they did go to that style of play this game would die very quickly.

[Nalien]

It isn't a must, it is about introducing content that requires you to play better and utilize the multi-job ability this MMO has that others doesn't

Being able to play multiple Jobs on one character isn't something the content is meant to utilize, it's there so people can be as flexible as they like.

Currently it is a nice bonus that sets the Final Fantasy MMOs apart from the rest, making it a requirement changes it into "I have to grind EXP and gear multiple times?".