Time to bring back 1.23 multi-job relic style dungeons

[Andres_Lonegrief]

how did these dungeons work? I joined only after 2.0 so I'm pretty ignorant, but it would be nice seeing something more "consistent" since lately even the newest dungeons are too easy and become soon boring.

People still wipe at Aurum or Stone Vigil, but everybody can clear Hullbreaker without the slightest ounce of effort.

[lololink]

how did these dungeons work? I joined only after 2.0 so I'm pretty ignorant, but it would be nice seeing something more "consistent" since lately even the newest dungeons are too easy and become soon boring.

People still wipe at Aurum or Stone Vigil, but everybody can clear Hullbreaker without the slightest ounce of effort.

Run run run, sleep the frog, run run run, stand on circle and sleep. repeat until getting to a boss, change job and kill it.

[Volcano]

Run run run, sleep the frog, run run run, stand on circle and sleep. repeat until getting to a boss, change job and kill it.

And why do "We" want this again? i'm still trying to figure out where the we came from. this sounds even worse. there is a reason 1.xx failed..if this is the type of stuff the minority want back.

[Duelle]

And why do "We" want this again? i'm still trying to figure out where the we came from. this sounds even worse. there is a reason 1.xx failed..if this is the type of stuff the minority want back.

Dungeons back then were something I avoided for the most part. Only reason I even saw the inside of 1.0's aurum vale was because my PLD AF had to be found there. It was, as lololink said: run to beacon => sleep mobs => stand in beacon until everything despawns => run to next beacon => etc. It was pretty damn terrible.

[Dallie]

Dungeons back then were something I avoided for the most part. Only reason I even saw the inside of 1.0's aurum vale was because my PLD AF had to be found there. It was, as lololink said: run to beacon => sleep mobs => stand in beacon until everything despawns => run to next beacon => etc. It was pretty damn terrible.

Yeah, i'm good with not bringing back 1.0's dungeon run style. I think you need to clean off those rose-tinted glasses OP, and remember things clearly. Dungeon runs back then were grueling tests of patience and if you had a group from your LS that wanted to run more than once per day, it was a lucky day, they were so exasperating to everyone. As a healer back then, I never want to repeat that experience.

[Andres_Lonegrief]

Run run run, sleep the frog, run run run, stand on circle and sleep. repeat until getting to a boss, change job and kill it.

It seems T3 with a boss fight.
Were these dungeon really meant to be like this?

[AttacKat]

Run run run, sleep the frog, run run run, stand on circle and sleep. repeat until getting to a boss, change job and kill it.

That was how it did work due to the lack of speed run prevention; more of an issue of old XIV engine that is no longer an issue in ARR.

But the main difference is your party make up cannot consist of just one BiS job for each member, and all of your members needs to be able to perform 3-4 different jobs in order for you to even think about doing the dungeon. You have cases where at one boss, you need to have a WAR to tank, and at another, you need that PLD, at the same time at some phases you need that BLM while in another you must have your MNK.

In other words, your party better be ready to deal with the different strengths of the bosses, so you must be able to utilize the difference strengths of your jobs. It isn't just about knowing when to dodge this, when to move to the left, and when to avoid being pushed off of that edge.

[Cutie_McSnuggles]

But the main difference is your party make up cannot consist of just one BiS job for each member, and all of your members needs to be able to perform 3-4 different jobs in order for you to even think about doing the dungeon. You have cases where at one boss, you need to have a WAR to tank, and at another, you need that PLD, at the same time at some phases you need that BLM while in another you must have your MNK.

This is exactly what's wrong with that system though. It changes the game from, "You have the freedom to play any job you want." to, "You MUST play every job."

[AttacKat]

This is exactly what's wrong with that system though. It changes the game from, "You have the freedom to play any job you want." to, "You MUST play every job."

It isn't a must, it is about introducing content that requires you to play better and utilize the multi-job ability this MMO has that others doesn't, and not just the same old "move, dodge, avoid" game play. It is about we have a multi-job character, so "use it, or lose it". Right now, it is not being used, and it is making ARR no different then other MMOs.

Besides, you are at end-game, and you still only play one job since the HARD modes?

[whoopeeragon]

Besides, you are at end-game, and you still only play one job since the HARD modes?

Is it a crime for someone to stick to one job they really like? Why must it be a necessity to get all classes to 50? Not everyone is a completionist, some people probably enjoy one job enough that they don't feel the need to level up another one. Who are you to judge them on that?