Time to bring back 1.23 multi-job relic style dungeons

**AttacKat** · 09-09-2014 07:31 PM

Interestingly enough, someone revived an old JP thread that talked about how meaningless current endgame is setup, when avoiding instance wipes is more important then having actual strat to defeat a boss.

I believe this is the right time to request YoshiP to bring back the 1.23 relic style dungeon that we enjoyed so much.

Instead of spearheading down the path where all the "static" groups wants from you is BiS with only one job, reintroduce the 1.23 style dungeon runs where we must be able to effectively perform multiple jobs to complete a multi-phase dungeon.

This was what made FFXIV 1.2x different from all the other MMOs. It is time to give us game play using what our character is designed to do, a multi-class/multi-job avatar, and not those one-class wonders all other simple MMOs offers.

EDIT: This is NOT a request to bring back speed runs. It is a request for SE to produce more challenging dungeon play style where it isn't just any 1T:1H:2DPS or multiple thereof, but a more well planned party makeup during difference phases of the dungeon/boss fights.

**lololink** · 09-09-2014 07:34 PM

Nope, Yoshi doesn't want to force players to play multiple jobs.

**reality_check** · 09-10-2014 06:03 AM

Originally Posted by lololink

Nope, Yoshi doesn't want to force players to play multiple jobs.

Well as is stands some people are required to play multiple jobs. Especially when certain fights have very viable one-tank strategies

**Magis** · 09-10-2014 06:10 AM

Originally Posted by reality_check

Well as is stands some people are required to play multiple jobs. Especially when certain fights have very viable one-tank strategies

Also needed for cross-class abilities, like Quelling Strikes on BLM.

**Zumi** · 09-10-2014 06:20 AM

Originally Posted by reality_check

Well as is stands some people are required to play multiple jobs. Especially when certain fights have very viable one-tank strategies

If you are a tank and you have no other jobs leveled and want to use a 1 tank strat you can still just go sword oath or take off defiance and focus on dps.

**reality_check** · 09-10-2014 06:23 AM

Originally Posted by Zumi

If you are a tank and you have no other jobs leveled and want to use a 1 tank strat you can still just go sword oath or take off defiance and focus on dps.

That undermines the whole purpose of having a one tank strategy.

**Dwill** · 09-10-2014 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by reality_check

That undermines the whole purpose of having a one tank strategy.

A few people actually uses OT with strength accessories in one tank strategies. It actually does decent damage (they can break the 300 with the appropriate gear) and can switch to MT in case the other MT dies for whatever reasons.

**Scootaloo** · 09-14-2014 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by lololink

Nope, Yoshi doesn't want to force players to play multiple jobs.

And THIS is why so many players refer to FFXIV as a WoW clone. Seriously, this game has the potential to escape that damned stereotype and I personally want it to more than anything but
as long as Yoshi-P along with the rest of the dev team are scared to even so much as add some type of challenge outside of "You either dodge everything or insta-wipe"(which isn't challenging but more accurately just annoying.)this game will continue to hold this stereotype.

Due to the backlash from adding atma farming and other mildly challenging content(99% of them being WoW-babies) chances are they will revert back to their "safe-zone" in development.

**Dark-Saviour** · 09-14-2014 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by Scootaloo

Due to the backlash from adding atma farming and other mildly challenging content(99% of them being WoW-babies) chances are they will revert back to their "safe-zone" in development.

Did... Did you just imply that rubbish like atma is in any way, shape or form 'challenging'?

**Colt47** · 09-14-2014 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by Dark-Saviour

Did... Did you just imply that rubbish like atma is in any way, shape or form 'challenging'?

Don't know about challenging, but certainly a painful experience in watching ones life tick away as they attempt to grind fates for a chance at atma...

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