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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    I still haven't heard a good reason why SE should go outside the simple to understand formula they have in place now. So DEX would be NIN's stat for damage even though they are a melee. The descriptions to STR and DEX are shown clear as day. So if we go by this idea, STR and DEX's meaning changes simply by the role of the class/job alone just so "it looks cool to have DEX". You don't think this won't be confusing to new players at all? Keep it simple.
    Other MMOs have had STR and DEX as stats. Many of said MMOs have given Scout type classes DEX priority. It isn't exactly an innovation that newcomers will need to wrap their minds around.

    The reason has been, and remains to be, balance and general vision of the class and how they want to define the DEX stat moving forward. Keeping DEX as a physical+ranged stat only will make it widely underutilized whereas defining it as a precision-based offensive stat will, for example, have it make sense for both physical+ranged and scout-type classes moving forward.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dynza View Post
    I really don't want to get into an argument that relies on fallacy, but...

    If the concern about ninja sharing accessories with other strength-based classes is perceived to somehow unbalance the classes, it fortunately does not. Already strength based classes compete with each other accessories, so the fact that another class comes in sharing the same accessories does not reduce the chances of said accessories from dropping. Those same accessories still have a similar chance of dropping just as before and the chance of obtaining said accessories still remains based on entirely on group composition (at least 20%).
    I never once said anything about it affecting drop rates. The luck of the draw here is in DF. More classes existing that use STR means more likelyhood of getting DPS slots filled by jobs that use STR in the DF which means more competition for those items.

    As you're leveling up, or doing endgame, if you're a BRD you only compete with other BRDs in the party. If you're a MNK, DRG or NIN, you will end up competing with anybody from those 3 jobs. Again, basic probability here. Competing with half the DPS roster vs competing with only your job.

    You can go around calling fallacy all you like, but I still haven't seen a viable counter to the simple probability-based imbalance I am suggesting will occur if NIN is STR-based; just a lack of comprehension.
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    Last edited by NoctisUmbra; 08-28-2014 at 11:44 PM.