Chocobo Dye Experimentation

[Kerberus]

After my last post, after 4 more feeding sessions finally got my Soot Black. I've been tracking all the feeding sessions sice desert yellow, including feather procs, and gonna post it here soon =D

[LyricalMelody]

I'm still working on the chocobo color mapping. I should have some time today to get more data entered.

Thanks to everyone for all the help so far

[Angelusdemonus]

Onward with Pears for now. Going to start #11.

I've very interested to see what you get, and to see if we cross paths, assuming you'll do pure pears (or if I hit apple green, which I know is the pear cap).

Here is my updated progress, which I'll start from Blood Red pure apple line once more:
(Again, all stopped on first new feather message)

Blood Red --> Used 3 Berries = Dalamud Red
Dalamud Red --> Used 2 Plums = Blood Red
Blood Red --> Used 13 Pears = Plum Purple
Plum Purple --> Used 1 Pear = Blood Red
Blood Red --> Used 1 Pear = Plum Purple
Plum Purple --> Used 4 Pears = Opo Opo Brown

I didnt think I would be stuck on that loop for long...if I was, it would be interesting. (On a side note, I would say to anyone stuck in a loop just to keep trying the same fruits. You should break out of it eventually, but my opinion is if you keep mixing fruits when you're in a loop...you'll be stuckforeva).

I'm predicting I should probably reach apple green, which then my next step would be to see if I can reverse myself down to Desert Yellow, then maybe go back up the apple to see if there is any consistency. Results in 2016.

When I saw Plum Purple, I was very tempted to see if Berries would bring me up the Berry line (almost like a shortcut to Royal Blue) or if Pineapple brought be back downward (Lavender Blue/Purple)...but I'm staying steady with Pears right now.

[AjoraUninspired]

Since I'm now on my 9th attempt, and I seem to have gone on a path I haven't seen on here yet, so I'll post everything I've gotten so far. I've mostly used Pears and Berries, and Apples/Plums once. - only one type per session.

1st Session - 1 Pear Proc (feather message)(Starting from Desert Yellow)
Result:Cream Yellow

2nd Session - 1 Pear Proc
Result:Lime Green

3rd Session - 1 Apple Proc
Result:Honey Yellow

4th Session - 1 Plum Proc
Result:Lime Green

5th Session - 1 Berry Proc
Result:Apple Green

6th Session - 1 Berry Proc
Result:Meadow Green

7th Session - 1 Berry Proc
Result:Cactuar Green

8th Session - 1 Berry Proc
Result:Adamantoise Green

9th Session - 1 Berry Proc
Result: ???

[LyricalMelody]

Blood Red --> Used 3 Berries = Dalamud Red
Dalamud Red --> Used 2 Plums = Blood Red
Blood Red --> Used 13 Pears = Plum Purple
Plum Purple --> Used 1 Pear = Blood Red
Blood Red --> Used 1 Pear = Plum Purple
Plum Purple --> Used 4 Pears = Opo Opo Brown

I didnt think I would be stuck on that loop for long...if I was, it would be interesting. (On a side note, I would say to anyone stuck in a loop just to keep trying the same fruits. You should break out of it eventually, but my opinion is if you keep mixing fruits when you're in a loop...you'll be stuckforeva).

I think you are right about the looping. I was going between regal purple <> royal blue and I knew when I had to feed more than one apple to my regal purple that I'd finally broken out. (got dalamud red)

[Crankysorc]

That's pretty much what I was saying. You feed it fruit, step by step until you receive the 'beginning to grow new feathers' message since that is the indicator of the colour change. Also, if you check my spreadsheet it will show you the path to Colibri Pink. It's in the Apple colour-tree.

Adding your find from Lavender Blue to Colibri Pink with Valfruit.

Ah ok, was just clarifying because I read it differently :P

[Tyrfina]

I've been following this thread since the start, though I have yet to start work on my own 'bo. I've seen the theory arise that there can be hq 'procs', but I am curious... Has anyone examined time elapsed between the interval of the feeding and the establishment of the new color (through interaction with the stables) as a relevant factor? Most people note '6hrs' but i don't know if that is the true time elapsed, or just a shorthand for "I waited more than the requisite time."

It may be a bit off the wall, but I wonder if it isn't possible that once a change has begun, a chocobo's color can't continue further down a color path until it is 'set'. If true, it could certainly explain some of the variance we are seeing (as opposed to an 'hq' feeding) as I very much doubt everyone is checking their bird at exactly the 6 hour mark.

Everyone say diffrent things about the color change and message recive there isnt any clear information about it and proof.

I got multiple times the feather change text while i feeded all fruits listed for snow white so why i have to stop after the frist message? He was cork brown and i gave him all fruits in one session for snow white an my chocobo is now snow white. Waiting 6 houts after each feather change message isnt necessary i think!

From what I've read, you cetainly can affect further change to the color after the first message. The thing is the people in this thread (well, some of them) are trying to employ the scientific method to determine the effects of these fruits, and how they behave. That means testing under controlled conditions.

The most reasonable theory I have heard postulates the feather messages following the first one in a given feeding can't be considered reliable indicators. Since usually multiple fruit need to be given before you get the first message in a given session (our present indicator of change) it can be deduced that NOT all fruit cause a change. But my understanding is that all fruit following the first message in a single feeding session will cause the feathers message to repeat. As we already presume that not all fruit cause an effect, it follows that not all of these fruit are causing a change. The message is being repeated as if to say "Hey, that thing that was happening before... it's still happening." So we can't tell any longer which of these fruits are causing a change to happen (though likely some of them are).

Eg. If you give your chocobo 6 fruit, and you get your first feathers message on the second, it is my understanding you will always get a message on fruits 3, 4, 5 & 6. However, since it seems to be somewhat random if any one fruit has an effect, you could have either changed colors on the 2nd, 4th, and 5th fruits OR the 2nd, and 6th fruits etc. for a total range of 1-5 changes. This makes for a very poor means of experimentation as well as arriving at a specific color reliably.

[AttacKat]

O'Ghomorro Berry colour tree:

Desert Yellow
Cork Brown
Ul Brown
Aldgoat Brown
Gobbiebag Brown
Aldgoat Brown - I've read this was before Gobbiebag
Shale Brown
Goobbue Grey
Lavender Blue
Lilac Purple
Lavender Purple - FC member got this
Plum Purple
Raptor Blue
Othard Blue
Royal Blue

What I have gathered from difference sources (and my own) so far on O'G Berry:

O'Ghomoro 1

Desert Yellow (D)
Ul Brown
Gobbiebag Brown
Shale Brown
Goobbue Grey
Lavender Blue
Raptor Blue
Othard Blue

O'Ghomoro 2

Desert Yellow (D)
Cork Brown
Ul Brown
Aldgoat Brown
Gobbiebag Brown
Shale Brown
Goobbue Grey
Lavender Blue
Othard Blue

O'Ghomoro (me)

Desert Yellow
Cork Brown
Ul Brown
Aldgoat Brown
Shale Brown
Lilac Purple
Plum Purple

O'Ghomoro (sum)

1 Desert Yellow (D)
2 Cork Brown 2x)
3 Ul Brown (3x)
4 Aldgoat Brown (2x)
5 Gobbiebag Brown (2x)
6 Shale Brown (3x)
7 Goobbue Grey (2x)
8 Lavender Blue (2x)
9 Lilac Purple
10 Plum Purple
11 Raptor Blue
12 Othard Blue (2x)

[Gamina]

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I understand what you are saying and I also agree that nothing is exact at the moment and we can theorize outside the given paths we are exploring. I do believe there is something more to the HQ theory, whether its time, previous fruits fed, choco level, whatever... at the moment its impossible to tell. However, I have gone down the route of single feather message and stop. I have followed the "map" that has sprung up on this thread (the three the simple MSpaint one, the beautiful graphical one and the one on excel all contain largely the same info) and following the single feed rule I have gone down the path step by step for the last 4 steps I have taken. This has resulted in exactly the results the maps are giving (I am not saying they are perfect but the info on them seems good to me at the moment). My fellow FC member happened to feed lots and lots of fruit with lots of proc messages and we have ended up on the same colour multiple times. Twice I know we have proced first on the same fruit yet he has added more fruit varieties it has seemed to have had little effect.

[Ravenloft]

I've very interested to see what you get, and to see if we cross paths, assuming you'll do pure pears (or if I hit apple green, which I know is the pear cap).

I Honestly don't know anymore. This is getting very strange. I never "should" have hit these blues, should have got darker purples, then went over to browns, greys or one of the almost black colors.

11th Stage Finished.

Started Storm Blue, took 7 Pears to get one new feathers message, end result Othard Blue.

It's like I never fed those 75 Apples. Someone in the "other thread" said days ago something about the deepening fruits darkening their respective colors and lightening the other two. I thought they were nuts at the time, now... I'm not so sure anymore.

12th Stage Started. Took 11 Pears to get the message. If this turns to Peacock Blue, I'm going to have to completely change how I'm going about this. I'm going to have to start doing one stage of a deepening fruit, move on to the next one for the next stage, same with the 3rd. Then just keep cycling through them until I start hitting near-black colors.

My First Post with everything recorded in it.