Chocobo Dye Experimentation

[Narissa]

Need some help getting Rolanberry Red, I currently have Plum Purple.

I think I need to add more blue but which one and how many :S

[Kerberus]

After my last post, after 4 more feeding sessions finally got my Soot Black. I've been tracking all the feeding sessions sice desert yellow, including feather procs, and gonna post it here soon =D

[AjoraUninspired]

Since I'm now on my 9th attempt, and I seem to have gone on a path I haven't seen on here yet, so I'll post everything I've gotten so far. I've mostly used Pears and Berries, and Apples/Plums once. - only one type per session.

1st Session - 1 Pear Proc (feather message)(Starting from Desert Yellow)
Result:Cream Yellow

2nd Session - 1 Pear Proc
Result:Lime Green

3rd Session - 1 Apple Proc
Result:Honey Yellow

4th Session - 1 Plum Proc
Result:Lime Green

5th Session - 1 Berry Proc
Result:Apple Green

6th Session - 1 Berry Proc
Result:Meadow Green

7th Session - 1 Berry Proc
Result:Cactuar Green

8th Session - 1 Berry Proc
Result:Adamantoise Green

9th Session - 1 Berry Proc
Result: ???

[Ravenloft]

After my last post, after 4 more feeding sessions finally got my Soot Black. I've been tracking all the feeding sessions sice desert yellow, including feather procs, and gonna post it here soon =D

Congrats! I'm interested in seeing your tracking notes.

[LyricalMelody]

I'm still working on the chocobo color mapping. I should have some time today to get more data entered.

Thanks to everyone for all the help so far

[Tyrfina]

I've been following this thread since the start, though I have yet to start work on my own 'bo. I've seen the theory arise that there can be hq 'procs', but I am curious... Has anyone examined time elapsed between the interval of the feeding and the establishment of the new color (through interaction with the stables) as a relevant factor? Most people note '6hrs' but i don't know if that is the true time elapsed, or just a shorthand for "I waited more than the requisite time."

It may be a bit off the wall, but I wonder if it isn't possible that once a change has begun, a chocobo's color can't continue further down a color path until it is 'set'. If true, it could certainly explain some of the variance we are seeing (as opposed to an 'hq' feeding) as I very much doubt everyone is checking their bird at exactly the 6 hour mark.

Everyone say diffrent things about the color change and message recive there isnt any clear information about it and proof.

I got multiple times the feather change text while i feeded all fruits listed for snow white so why i have to stop after the frist message? He was cork brown and i gave him all fruits in one session for snow white an my chocobo is now snow white. Waiting 6 houts after each feather change message isnt necessary i think!

From what I've read, you cetainly can affect further change to the color after the first message. The thing is the people in this thread (well, some of them) are trying to employ the scientific method to determine the effects of these fruits, and how they behave. That means testing under controlled conditions.

The most reasonable theory I have heard postulates the feather messages following the first one in a given feeding can't be considered reliable indicators. Since usually multiple fruit need to be given before you get the first message in a given session (our present indicator of change) it can be deduced that NOT all fruit cause a change. But my understanding is that all fruit following the first message in a single feeding session will cause the feathers message to repeat. As we already presume that not all fruit cause an effect, it follows that not all of these fruit are causing a change. The message is being repeated as if to say "Hey, that thing that was happening before... it's still happening." So we can't tell any longer which of these fruits are causing a change to happen (though likely some of them are).

Eg. If you give your chocobo 6 fruit, and you get your first feathers message on the second, it is my understanding you will always get a message on fruits 3, 4, 5 & 6. However, since it seems to be somewhat random if any one fruit has an effect, you could have either changed colors on the 2nd, 4th, and 5th fruits OR the 2nd, and 6th fruits etc. for a total range of 1-5 changes. This makes for a very poor means of experimentation as well as arriving at a specific color reliably.

[Gamina]

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I understand what you are saying and I also agree that nothing is exact at the moment and we can theorize outside the given paths we are exploring. I do believe there is something more to the HQ theory, whether its time, previous fruits fed, choco level, whatever... at the moment its impossible to tell. However, I have gone down the route of single feather message and stop. I have followed the "map" that has sprung up on this thread (the three the simple MSpaint one, the beautiful graphical one and the one on excel all contain largely the same info) and following the single feed rule I have gone down the path step by step for the last 4 steps I have taken. This has resulted in exactly the results the maps are giving (I am not saying they are perfect but the info on them seems good to me at the moment). My fellow FC member happened to feed lots and lots of fruit with lots of proc messages and we have ended up on the same colour multiple times. Twice I know we have proced first on the same fruit yet he has added more fruit varieties it has seemed to have had little effect.

[Snootles]

I've been following this thread since the start, though I have yet to start work on my own 'bo. I've seen the theory arise that there can be hq 'procs', but I am curious... Has anyone examined time elapsed between the interval of the feeding and the establishment of the new color (through interaction with the stables) as a relevant factor? Most people note '6hrs' but i don't know if that is the true time elapsed, or just a shorthand for "I waited more than the requisite time."

I have waited far longer than the 6 hours. Feed chicken, go to bed, get up and check lol. Others have checked after 6 hours. It's an interesting theory but so far, mind you only with FC and LS mates, I haven't seen time being a factor.

I don't know what causes these 'skipped' steps or 'rare' steps. It's not HQ but I have no idea what else to call it.

[UltimaRatio]

I have waited far longer than the 6 hours. Feed chicken, go to bed, get up and check lol. Others have checked after 6 hours. It's an interesting theory but so far, mind you only with FC and LS mates, I haven't seen time being a factor.

I don't know what causes these 'skipped' steps or 'rare' steps. It's not HQ but I have no idea what else to call it.

I've got went from millioncorn yellow to coeurl yellow unlike others from just feeding the apples, then went to pumpkin orange next time I fed apples

[Snootles]

I've got went from millioncorn yellow to coeurl yellow unlike others from just feeding the apples, then went to pumpkin orange next time I fed apples

Do you remember if you got 1 'beginning to grow new feathers!' message or more? Because this may be one of those 'rare' steps that hardly anyone is getting.