mmorpg's review

[Synthesis]

No.

Now you are trying to spin and distort what people have said. You're misrepresenting specific arguments people have made - in detail, several times.

Dont take the issue bad, lol. It sounds a bit harsh I have to admit. Excuse my English once again. What I wanted to say is that reviewer packs all into one number at the end, the score. I dont have to agree with the score neither with time the review at mmorpg was written in. I know that it will be outdated in 1 more day. I stated this before in this thread that I dont get time why they release it now. It was written, dont blame me.

By final verdict ( score ) I mean that many new players will look at this and say simply : that the game is bad and lacks this and that as is stated in review, underlined with bad score. Even if that is outdated review, its underlined with Reviewed On: July 18, 2011 .

For new readers this matters dont tell me that doesnt. If you dont know the whole story, and you wanna find out first informations you will look at the review. Most people do this, its natural.

If I would be new and wanted to try FFXIV I would find out some reviews here and there, for me a single is just a dust. I compare more reviews before I try. In this case review from July 18, 2011 is not different from other reviews that were written in september and so on.

Mmorpg's review poped out few days before first big update, it shows outdating informations and yes I am aware of this. But its showing bad mark to new players - that game is bad. thats all. I am not fighitn for that or this. This is just a whole fact, why I mentioned score. It matters for new players and it repels them back away from game itself.

[Preypacer]

Noone in this thread has a valid rebutal to anything. Everyone is just throwing incompatible opinions at each other, claiming to be right where the other is wrong, discarding others opinions with bickering about semantics. This is a game forum. That's the way it goes. If you take anything in here serious, you're wasting your time.

No.

People are discussing a very valid and very relevant issue regarding a very unprofessional reviewer publishing a very dubious review on a high profile website.

Your closing assertion notwithstanding - as that is your opinion, nothing more (it also hasn't stopped you from joining the fray throughout the thread - hypocrisy?) - this is an issue that does bear discussion. MMORPG.com's review is not posted by some random blogger on some random blogspot site somewhere. It's an official review posted on a high traffic website.

If you find it to be a waste of your time, however, well... nothing's stopping you from ducking out and moving on, now is it?

[Preypacer]

Mmorpg's review poped out few days before first big update, it shows outdating informations and yes I am aware of this. But its out, telling new players - that game is bad. thats all.

It's telling players the game is bad, while citing incorrect, exaggerated and - as you point out as well - soon-to-be out-dated information.

Regardless, the score or what people may think of it isn't the issue.

The issue is with the review itself, the incorrect info, the suspect timing... and so on. Those are the things people are taking issue with.

You keep trying to reduce it all down to a bottom line of "people will see the score and figure the site thinks it's just a poor game". They may well... but then that's the impression they could have gotten from just about any other review out there.

Again... the score or the "impression" it gives, is not what is at issue.

It's the content, timing and delivery of the review itself that is in question.

[Ichi]

lol that's because it's a game. Games are about subjective experiences about what is personally enjoyable and variable across every single individual. It's nice to read reviews and be informed about what your buying when it's a graphics card or a cpu processor, or a bungee cord.

When you start reviewing subjective hobbies you're offering an opinion. That means that the same practicality does not apply for reviews of games as it does for regular items. Sorry to say but i don't pay much attention to video game reviews since no one but me is going to share my subjective desires.

[Synthesis]

It's the content, timing and delivery of the review itself that is in question.

I have just one answer for thís,
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...253#post236253

[Preypacer]

lol that's because it's a game. Games are about subjective experiences about what is personally enjoyable and variable across every single individual. It's nice to read reviews and be informed about what your buying when it's a graphics card or a cpu processor, or a bungee cord.

When you start reviewing subjective hobbies you're offering an opinion. That means that the same practicality does not apply for reviews of games as it does for regular items. Sorry to say but i don't pay much attention to video game reviews since no one but me is going to share my subjective desires.

Seriously... Have people given up on even trying to pretend to follow what people are actually discussing in this thread anymore?

It has nothing to do with subjective opinions on the game.

There are over 30 pages of thread after thread after thread pointing out and discussing the same exact specific issues over and over... incorrect information, suspicious timing of the review, exaggerations, etc. etc. etc.

None of it has anything to do with people having an issue with the reviewer's "subjective opinions" on the game.

[Preypacer]

I have just one answer for thís,
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...253#post236253

Great, so you're in agreement on that.

So why, then, do you assert that it's about the score, when it's been made abundantly clear that it isn't?

Seems a bit Jekyll and Hyde to me.

Playing Devil's Advocate, perhaps?

[Synthesis]

Seems a bit Jekyll and Hyde to me.

Playing Devil's Advocate, perhaps?

This aims to off-topic. And arent we starting trolling a bit ? I am out of this thread I stated all I wanted about review here.

[Preypacer]

This aims to off-topic. And arent we starting trolling a bit ? I am out of this thread I stated all I wanted to review here.

Guess I hit the truth a bit too close to the mark.

Off-topic? How so? I was merely trying to find out why you would keep trying to misrepresent people's issues with the review to be "about the score" when you yourself previously agreed that there's an issue with it. You didn't answer that question, by the way.

Are we trolling a bit? Maybe you are. I'm certainly not.

Going off-topic? Hardly. I've been trying to keep it *on* topic despite the best efforts of people like yourself to make it "about the score".

Nice try at twisting that around, too, though.

[giftforce]

Guys get a life.

So there's another bad review about FFXIV on the internet with one or two factual errors which don't necessarily even impact on anything at all regarding the overall impression of the game.

Welcome to ten months ago.