Chocobo Dye Experimentation

[Kerberus]

@Kerberus:
You got the feather proc on only the last apple?
The berries and pears might not count if so.

Well, if my line of thinking is true, you only get a "new feathers" message when rounding gets closer to another color, but all fruits fed still affect the RGB values.

It also explains why sometimes results can't be reproduced, as 2 Chocobos can fall in the same color due to rounding and aproximation, but their ultimately "true" RGB Value is different, and may yeld different results in the long run.

It's just there wasn't a significant change in the RGB values to make rounding go to another color before the last apple, i think, since these 3 fruits kind of balance each other.

From experimentation, I'm sure at least berries works as follows: -- R | - G | +B


I'm not 100% sure on the other 2, but following logic, they should work as follows:
Apples: +R | --G | -B
Pears: -R | +G | --B

If this proves right feeding 2 of each like i did:
R G B
-2 -1 +1
-2 -1 +1
-1 +1 -2
-1 +1 -2
+1 -2 -1
+1 -2 -1
---------
-2 -2 -2

I should get a net result of color reduction by 2 levels, which i think is more or less the 30 i need to get to the next shade of grey.

Well, we'll see in 30 minutes XD

[Crankysorc]

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It doesn't explain why it takes some people 15 tries to get a single feathers message and others only 2 when they're feeding one type of fruit from the same starting color. The true RGB color should start out the same for everyone on the first session.
If it were a matter of 'oh, its rng if it adds/subtracts 1-10 to the value', we would be seeing a lotttttt of no feather changes after the first proc. This would be easily noticed in someone's log who fed over 20 after the first feather message.
But only seen that happen to like 2 people so far and I suspect that's because they hit a cap and need to use other fruits if they want a change.
It's possible the rng is weighted to favor making enough of a change, just seems extremely unlikely atm.
Let us know when your chocobo's done cooking :P

[Jayne422]

This is like the 6th time I've seen someone say they've gotten to white from 2 feedings and sylph green being a midpoint.

I feel like it's safe to say this should work every time and it will be the fastest way to get snow white from base. I'll keep updating my second page on how to transition from one color to the next, preferably not using giant sums of fruits anymore.

I can confirm that this will not work every time, at least not with only two feedings. I'm still experimenting though.

[Feldt]

Colored mine into Honey Yellow with 6 Cieldalaes Pineapple, now I was giving him new fruit until a message about new feathers appear. I have given him 6 Xelphatol Apple until that msg. appeared and I stopped. I wonder what results will come out tomorrow :3 I bought those on markets so this experiment costs me quiet a lot >,< Also just in case a Han Lemon is growing in my FC yard.

Millioncorn Yellow came out of this.

[Crankysorc]

I can confirm that this will not work every time, at least not with only two feedings. I'm still experimenting though.

Booo ;_;
what ended up happening?

[Jayne422]

Booo ;_;
what ended up happening?

First time I fed my bird, I fed it plums and got Sylph Green. I then fed it one apple in an attempt to take it back to Desert Yellow, which I managed. After that, I went back to plums to see where it would take me, and ended up with Snow White.

I tried to duplicate the snow white color (minus the apple from the first experiment). I feed it plums and the second time I ended up feeding it one less than the first time during the first session. During the second session, I had to feed it more plums to get the appropriate message. I ended up with Celeste Green.

If you check my original post, under the section for my personal experiments, there's a link to a google document where you can find more detailed notes on how I got what.

[Crankysorc]

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Aaa no :c
I happened twice on your document, too.
Definitely looks like there's RNG then. Either in the amount it shifts the color, like Kerberus said, or there's a list of possible colors that the chocobo can become from using a fruit on a certain color and it picks one at random. x_x

[Espritduo]

I've skimmed these threads and not seen this mentioned anywhere...but there's a LOT of posts, so forgive me if I'm repeating something known/debunked here. The whole "plumage will change" message does not seem to be random at all. It's just a matter of waiting 1 real time minute before feeding them the next fruit. When I just shoveled the fruit into my chocobo as fast as I could, I never got any message past the initial one until 1 minute had passed. So far, I've been waiting at least 1 minute and have yet to not see the message pop each time I feed a fruit. Again, this seems so obvious I imagine it's already been played around with, but if not, there it is.

[Kerberus]

I'm also experimenting to reach a Soot Black one.

Here is what i got so far:

Desert Yellow --> 10 Berries (8 New Feather Messages) --> Goobue Grey

Goobue Grey --> 2 Berries --> 2 Pears --> 2 Apples (got the new feather message exactly on the last one) --> (???)

Resulted in Shale Brown, which as said by our lala friend earlier is probably due to only the Apples having the "new Feather" effect.

Now proceeding to try again. trying to rebalance the RGB ratios while lowering the overal value again:

Shale Brown --> 5 Berries (4 "new feathers") --> 3 Pears ( 3 "new feathers") --> 1 Apple (1 "new feather") --> (???)

Will post the results again as soon as he's done.

[Erendis]

My results so far: