Chocobo Dye Experimentation

[Gilgameshkun]

royal + apple = abyssal again so now I'm going to feed my abyssal an apple and see what happens

[Schaeffa]

Desert Yellow (First Feed START)
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Shale Brown (7th Message; Second Feed START)
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Lavender Purple (10th Message)

I only used O'Ghomoro Berries so there shouldn't be any wacky deviations. Every "???" is a "starts to grow new feathers" message.

Alright! Piggy-backing off of ZReport's data, I wanted to see if it takes the same amount of berries to hit Lavender if I feed them all in one go, so I just fed mine until I received 17 new feather messages. Will report back tomorrow morning. =)

[Crankysorc]

It's starting to look like some colors can't be done in one go and need to see another color first. A lot of the snow white chocobo reports are done in two sessions; getting to sylph green first, then adding more plums for white. while others using the same number in one session are still just getting to sylph green.

Edit:
Making a second page on my spreadsheet taking information of moving between colors because of this.
Hopefully getting closer to figuring out how everyone can copy exact recipes ;_;
That millioncorn is a messsss

Someone sent me some information saying 19x feather procs didn't give them othard blue, but didn't mention the color it did result in.
Even without that information, it sounds like there's still rng after the feather proc and the message is just alerting us that a change will actually be taking place.

[FadingMoon]

I got pumpkin Orange which is close to sunset orange. How do I get sunset Orange from here? lol



Going to try 6 more apples

Had to go 7 apples for the new feathers message to pop!
Stable conditions good
Weather overcast

Result Sunset Orange <3

[Sadana]

To my surprise, I got Snow White with nothing but Plums. 2 separate feedings, only 2 "feathers" messages. Has anyone else gotten the same? Do y'all think I could remove red any farther?

No time stamp, sadly
Chickyboo devours the Doman plum.
Chickyboo's plumage will change in 6 hours.
Chickyboo devours the Doman plum.
Chickyboo devours the Doman plum.
Chickyboo devours the Doman plum.
Chickyboo devours the Doman plum.
Chickyboo is beginning to grow new feathers!
Chickyboo's plumage will change in 5 hours and 59 minutes.

Result: Sylph Green

8/23

15:00 Chickyboo devours the Doman plum.
15:00 Chickyboo devours the Doman plum.
15:01 Chickyboo devours the Doman plum.
15:02 Chickyboo devours the Doman plum.
15:02 Chickyboo devours the Doman plum.
15:02 Chickyboo devours the Doman plum.
15:02 Chickyboo is beginning to grow new feathers!
15:02 Chickyboo's plumage will change in 5 hours and 57 minutes.

Result: Snow White

It's starting to look like some colors can't be done in one go and need to see another color first. A lot of the snow white chocobo reports are done in two sessions; getting to sylph green first, then adding more plums for white. while others using the same number in one session are still just getting to sylph green.

I'm clearly need more coffee to have missed this. XD Ok, so theoretically achieving Snow White really is that easy. Still want to know if more red can be removed or not. ^^

eta: Scrolling back got me the answer. Thanks Levaeh! I'll update my list of recipes.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2383784

[Jeykama]

Started over on my chocobo in the name of science (and getting a Soot Black for giggles).
My general hypothesis is that first establishing a Grey color, then cycling through Apple > Berry > Pear to evenly apply RGB value is probably the best way to get it.
I only counted the fruits that gave plumage notices.

Desert Yellow	215	183	87	0	0	0	84%	B6	1:15 PM
Aldgoat Brown	167	135	103	-48	-51	16	65%	B4 Plum1	7:40 PM
Goobbue Gray	135	135	135	-32	0	32	53%	A2 B2 P2 A1 B1 P1 A1 B1 P1	1:57 AM
Lilac Purple	135	103	103	0	-32	-32	53%	B1 P1 A1 B1 P1 A1 B1 P1 A1 B1 P1 A1 B1 P1 A1 B1 P1 A1 B1 P1 	10:16 AM
Olive Green	87	87	55	-48	-16	-48		A9 B9 P8	4:52

The first 3 numbers are RGB values, the second 3 is the difference from the prior color, and the % is the overall brightness value.

So for now Goobbue GrAy seems attainable with 10 successful Berries and 1 Plum (I used it as Aldgoat Brown still had a fairly high R value.
After feeding 4 of each darkener, it went from Goobbue Gray to Lilac Purple (a red hue). I'm assuming that the actual R stat is a little high, but rounded in favor of Gray the last color, so this round I fed 7 of blue/green but only 6 of red.
Ended up with Olive Green which means red=green but blue was reduced too much somehow *throws up hands* only thing I can figure is that the increases/decreases are random.

[shoki]

I am feeding just Valfruit

Colour of starting Subject: Desert Yellow
Stable condition: Good

Feed#1: 1xVal ---> Feather msg ---> 3xVal--->Feather msg
result: Salmon pink (as expected)

Feed#2: 1xVal ---> Feather msg ---> 1xVal --> Feather msg
result: Rose Pink (as expected)

Feed#3: 3xVal---> Feather msg
result: Coral Pink (that was unexpected)

Feed#4: 5xVal --->Feather msg
result: Colibri Pink (as expected)

Feed#5: 14xVal ---> Feather msg
result: Plum Purple (not anything near it expected)

So if you look into the rgb values:

Name                      R       G       B
Desert Yellow	        216	175      80
Salmon Pink	        226	165	131
Rose Pink	        228	153	144
Coral Pink	        200	101	 87
Colibri Pink	        217	149	198
Plum Purple	        114	 75	101

So jeah after the plum purple one i have no idea what the fruits do anymore. Every RGB value got lowered!?

[Aldora]

To my surprise, I got Snow White with nothing but Plums. 2 separate feedings, only 2 "feathers" messages. Has anyone else gotten the same? Do y'all think I could remove red any farther?

Result: Sylph Green

8/23


Result: Snow White

I'm clearly need more coffee to have missed this. XD Ok, so theoretically achieving Snow White really is that easy. Still want to know if more red can be removed or not. ^^

I'm testing this out as we speak Sadana. (^_^ )

[Kerberus]

I'm also experimenting to reach a Soot Black one.

Here is what i got so far:

Desert Yellow --> 10 Berries (8 New Feather Messages) --> Goobue Grey

With this i could conclude that each fruit have a main increase, and it indeed does affect the other 2 values, positively or negatively by around 50% of the main increase/decrease.

Now, going from the assumption these are the fruit values are the ones proposed:

Apple +R -G -B
Pear -R +G -B
Berries -R -G +B

Plum -R +G +B
Valfruit +R -G +B
Pineapple +R +G -B

I decided to feed him even numbers of Berries, Pears and Apples, to try to keep the color balance in the scale, while getting a darker shade of grey, so i went with:

Goobue Grey --> 2 Berries --> 2 Pears --> 2 Apples (got the new feather message exactly on the last one) --> (???)

1 and a half hour left and I'll be able to check the results. If, as predicted, the next color goes as Slate Grey, then i'm positive it's possible to get Soot Black within 2 more feedings (even one, but i wanna still go down to charcoal grey first, to make sure it's working properly).

[Crankysorc]

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This is like the 6th time I've seen someone say they've gotten to white from 2 feedings and sylph green being a midpoint.

I feel like it's safe to say this should work every time and it will be the fastest way to get snow white from base.
I'll keep updating my second page on how to transition from one color to the next, preferably not using giant sums of fruits anymore.
I'll only be updating the original spreadsheet to give us a clue of what kind of fruits should be used if players wish to make a big jump.

@Kerberus:
You got the feather proc on only the last apple?
The berries and pears might not count if so.