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  1. #141
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    what's funny is on release people jumped on the reviewers for legit reviews such as this one. they said wait for 6 months and most sites did that. when their 6 month review came out they jumped on them for those legit arguments. then 6 was told to wait until around mid june for the battle changes. this site waited not only until mid june til mid/late july and people are jumping on them. if they held off reviews til 2020 people would still be complaining they didn't give yoshi enough time.

    the review is legit and very much spot on.
    I agreed with this until I realized the post on the bottom of the last page has a link to about 26 six month reviews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raze View Post
    I agreed with this until I realized the post on the bottom of the last page has a link to about 26 six month reviews.
    They will re-review FFXIV again at some point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cichy View Post
    Alot of those people get banned on here for speaking out their mind as alot of the times they have strong opinion about the game.
    Very doubtful. The moderating team in this forum is extremely lenient even with evident trolls. That's why some posting around here, filling the forums with disgusting hyperboles, gratuitous bashing and pure venom are still allowed to do so.

    Which is indeed a pity.


    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    what's funny is on release people jumped on the reviewers for legit reviews such as this one. they said wait for 6 months and most sites did that. when their 6 month review came out they jumped on them for those legit arguments. then 6 was told to wait until around mid june for the battle changes. this site waited not only until mid june til mid/late july and people are jumping on them. if they held off reviews til 2020 people would still be complaining they didn't give yoshi enough time.

    the review is legit and very much spot on.
    The review not only isn't legit, but it's also extremely poorly written and misinformative.

    1: it comes four days before a major patch. A patch that was announced and that any gaming journalist worth their salt should know about. If the review was written a lot of time ago, then it should have simply voided and rewritten after. When you're too slow to proofread/greenlighted your articles, then maybe you shouldn't do this job.
    2: it's full of hyperbolic statements, that are the worst enemies of a fair review.
    3: the reviewer doesn't even know how to write a review. Lumping up the functionality of the UI in the graphics would make any even slightly experienced writer laugh is rear off.

    It's absolutely funny how some rabid haters (that must be somehow obsessed with this game, considering that they do nothing else than spit on it at every single post they write, yet they are completely unable to let go and move on like any sane person would do) would bend over twice to defend any review that speaks negatively of the game they hate. No matter if it flies in the face of logic, reality and the very basics of journalistic integrity.

    Funny little tidbit, i wrote to the mmorpg.com community manager just to see if he saw reason, and he immediately rescinded my ban as it wasn't justified. At least someone in that site knows what's fair.
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    Last edited by Abriael; 07-19-2011 at 01:58 PM.

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    I could care less what they scored the game I just think it's borderline retarded to release your MMO review before a big, meaty patch like this.

    Hell I'm starting to wonder if they didn't do the review when the game released and just forgot to post it until now, hell at least that would make some god damn sense as to why the only pictures they posted were of a level 2 character, and hardly mention anything about the game aside that they dislike it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Very doubtful. The moderating team in this forum is extremely lenient even with evident trolls. That's why some posting around here, filling the forums with disgusting hyperboles, gratuitous bashing and pure venom are still allowed to do so.

    Which is indeed a pity.




    The review not only isn't legit, but it's also extremely poorly written and misinformative.

    1: it comes four days before a major patch. A patch that was announced and that any gaming journalist worth their salt should know about. If the review was written a lot of time ago, then it should have simply voided and rewritten after. When you're too slow to proofread/greenlighted your articles, then maybe you shouldn't do this job.
    2: it's full of hyperbolic statements, that are the worst enemies of a fair review.
    3: the reviewer doesn't even know how to write a review. Lumping up the functionality of the UI in the graphics would make any even slightly experienced writer laugh is rear off.

    It's absolutely funny how some rabid haters (that must be somehow obsessed with this game, considering that they do nothing else than spit on it at every single post they write, yet they are completely unable to let go and move on like any sane person would do) would bend over twice to defend any review that speaks negatively of the game they hate. No matter if it flies in the face of logic, reality and the very basics of journalistic integrity.

    Funny little tidbit, i wrote to the mmorpg.com community manager just to see if he saw reason, and he immediately rescinded my ban as it wasn't justified. At least someone in that site knows what's fair.
    the beefs he has are accurate, the disclaimer is accurate, his review is not that different from reviews 3 months ago, or 6 months ago, because not much has changed. I understand you think people should wait for major content patches, but there is no real journalistic reason to.


    After 10 months the entire worth of your game is assumed to not depend on 1 patch. Maybe for this game it may happen one day, but you cant hold a journalistic community up to what may one day be, or what is coming next. Realistically most of her issues arent meant to be dealth with in this next patch, so her review coming now wont matter. The projected date for a review that might make people change thier tunes is not till after sept most likely, since they have said what they expect to have done by 1.20.

    Its not the end of the world, but it is an accurate review of the game as it stands, we ll see how accurate it will be in 4 days, but it will probably be accurate still.
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    For a normal patch I would agree, it is normal to not expect major changes.. Like Rift a new dungeon patch is just adding more of the same.

    But for the last 3 months the devs have been redoing the core foundations of the game. The battle system, the focus, as well as adding a ton of new things.

    These patches... are truly game changing patchs... not as in miracle patch, but they are literally changing what FFXIV is.

    Nothing has been changed because everything under Yoshida is being revealed in the following 3 patches.

    Honestly chances are the FFXIV we see now is not even the game it will be 3 months from now. New game focus, new leveling style, new battle system, new job system, dungeons, bst encampments, companys, so on and so on... honestly none of it is the same as the current XIV.

    So why would anyone knowingly review a game right before the massive changes? Maby they didn't know...but if that is the case... why is that person reviewing a game in the first place?



    The review is correct... but he did not even mention the massive changes coming up... in fact he said they where all rumor... which is just 100% bs and everyone on this forum knows it. The review has no clue what is happening to the game, which means really he should not be the one to review it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    the beefs he has are accurate
    Some are, most are overdramatized and full of hyperbole (which voids the "accurate" part). Exactly like many you could copy/paste from forums, mind you. Most definitely they don't look written by a professional gaming journo.
    Of course the review is even more accurate because the writer conveniently forgot to write about quite a few relevant positive aspects of the game.

    While simple list of cherry picked beef can most certanly satisfy the haters, that's not what a review is.

    the disclaimer is accurate
    No. It's not, as it calls officially confirmed data "rumors".

    his review is not that different from reviews 3 months ago, or 6 months ago, because not much has changed.
    You must be playing a different game than I do, Or must have not been here six months ago.

    I understand you think people should wait for major content patches, but there is no real journalistic reason to.
    The fact that a review has a fairly big possibility to become obsolete, irrelevant and misleading four days after publishing it is a HELL of a journalistic reason to hold it back.


    Maybe for this game it may happen one day, but you cant hold a journalistic community up to what may one day be, or what is coming next.
    Journalistic community? Lol. Who are we kidding? We aren't talking about the "journalistic community" (of which, mind you, I've been part for a long, long while), we're talking about a site that didn't publish the review of a game for 10 months, for some weird reason, and then randomly came up with one very conveniently four days before a major update. That's idiotic and unprofessional at best, fishy at worst.

    Its not the end of the world, but it is an accurate review of the game as it stands, we ll see how accurate it will be in 4 days, but it will probably be accurate still.
    The extensive use of hyperbole makes it inaccurate by definition. Now, and even more so in 4 days.
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    Honestly chances are the FFXIV we see now is not even the game it will be 3 months from now. New game focus, new leveling style, new battle system, new job system, dungeons, bst encampments, companys, so on and so on... honestly none of it is the same as the current XIV.
    Allow me to reserve my judgement.
    Up to now, all of that is still "announced", and not "implemented".
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    Quote Originally Posted by 141414 View Post
    My English is unskilled.

    Could you ..Japanese.. translate the content of this site?
    http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/g...oad/147/page/1
    Best I can do.

    Google Translate trying its best.
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    The review and reviewer are both stupid. One week and those numbers might have increased significantly. I would just ignore that review and tell your friends to ignore it too.

    Also, Lori May, if you're reading this somehow: Never write another review in your life.
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