mmorpg's review

[Abriael]

Allow me to reserve my judgement

Which is exactly what any gaming journalist with a shred of integrity would do, at this point.

[darkstarpoet1]

we have to remember a review of the game was posted and all reviews are based purely off someones opinion on the game. we may not agree with it, but because i don't agree with everything they said does not make it wrong. i don't want auto-attack, but that does not make your reasoning for wanting it wrong. i don't want jump in game, but it doesn't make others wrong for wanting it.

if we have more reasonable discussions instead of the constant go play the other game responses that are always thrown around maybe more could at least understand where the opinions come from. just because his review does not fit what you believe to be accurate does not mean his is inaccurate. the thing is we all have a habit of throwing insults anytime someone disagrees with us. the fact is his review is only one opinion.

you would attack me if i wrote an honest review of what i feel about the game at this point also. on release i felt the game was round a 5.1-6.0 and even though some think it's gotten better i would put a ranking around a 4.0-4.5 at this point. just because my opinion differs from yours does not mean either of us is wrong, but noting more than we see things differently.

Which is exactly what any gaming journalist with a shred of integrity would do, at this point.

yes, they could have waited a week and put out a review afterwards, but then people are gonna shout about how this was just the first step in changing and wait til 1.20. then they will push it back even farther and clam the next one is the golden patch. the thing is if the changes do drastically change the things they bring up in the review then it becomes irrelevant, but until they do it's relevant to them.

[Jynx]

No. It's not, as it calls officially confirmed data "rumors".

Rumor has it that the person who wrote the review, wrote a pretty terrible review.

But...thats allready confirmed!

[Reika]

we have to remember a review of the game was posted and all reviews are based purely off someones opinion on the game. we may not agree with it, but because i don't agree with everything they said does not make it wrong. i don't want auto-attack, but that does not make your reasoning for wanting it wrong. i don't want jump in game, but it doesn't make others wrong for wanting it.

if we have more reasonable discussions instead of the constant go play the other game responses that are always thrown around maybe more could at least understand where the opinions come from. just because his review does not fit what you believe to be accurate does not mean his is inaccurate. the thing is we all have a habit of throwing insults anytime someone disagrees with us. the fact is his review is only one opinion.

you would attack me if i wrote an honest review of what i feel about the game at this point also. on release i felt the game was round a 5.1-6.0 and even though some think it's gotten better i would put a ranking around a 4.0-4.5 at this point. just because my opinion differs from yours does not mean either of us is wrong, but noting more than we see things differently.

Yea, but writing a review KNOWING theres pretty much a ginormous patch coming in the week you write the review, and only stating the current negatives but not what the patch is going to bring, is a big waste of time, both to write and to read.

[Jynx]

yes, they could have waited a week and put out a review afterwards, but then people are gonna shout about how this was just the first step in changing and wait til 1.20.

My FFXIV Review: Blah blah blah, game sucks as is, blah blah blah.

Score. 3/10

Now...when to post this, lets say...four days before my entire review will become obsolete. I could...you know wait for a few days and make sure all my facts check out and whatnot.

But screw that shit! Journalistic integrity is for babies.

POST!

[darkstarpoet1]

Yea, but writing a review KNOWING theres pretty much a ginormous patch coming in the week you write the review, and only stating the current negatives but not what the batch is going to bring, is a big waste of time, both to write and to read.

now that i completely agree with that what is coming should have been mentioned, but they cannot give rave reviews on anything that is not in game yet. the only other thing about saying what is coming in this patch is we do not even know how much of it will play into the system to make things better or worse so it'd be hard to talk it up until then. they should have mentioned the upcoming changes and that's about as far as they could have went with it.

i agree that waiting until after the patch was probably the smartest thing to do, but i was just saying even if they posted it afterwards people would still say it was written too soon because this or that is not done.

[Reika]

Then the woman should have waited instead of giving a review that wont last through the week. instead she had to take some silly screen shots of the beginning of the game with her newly created pug that she killed one whole wharf rat with and blast the game in its soon to be altered entirety.

[Abriael]

we have to remember a review of the game was posted and all reviews are based purely off someones opinion on the game. we may not agree with it, but because i don't agree with everything they said does not make it wrong. i don't want auto-attack, but that does not make your reasoning for wanting it wrong. i don't want jump in game, but it doesn't make others wrong for wanting it.

A review is not an opinion piece. A rant is an opinion piece (and a poor one). A review needs to be solidly based on facts. Not on hyperbole. On facts.
This one simply isn't.

If you feel that the game at this point is worth a 4/4.5, that's a good reason why you aren't a gaming journalist. Because just like the one that wrote this review you arn't able to fairly assess the pros and cons of a game (and I'm giving her the benefit of doubt by chalking the poor review simply to lack of competence, because there are some clear elements that indicate lazyness and/or intentional bashing, which is way worse in a journalist).

yes, they could have waited a week and put out a review afterwards, but then people are gonna shout about how this was just the first step in changing and wait til 1.20. then they will push it back even farther and clam the next one is the golden patch. the thing is if the changes do drastically change the things they bring up in the review then it becomes irrelevant, but until they do it's relevant to them.

Sorry mate, but you should know better than pulling such an extreme strawman rgument.
There's a big and wide difference between posting a review months before a major patch and doing it four days before.

You continue to harp on the fact that the rants listed in the review won't be changed by 1.18, but again, a review is (and should be) *not* just a list of complaints.

Without even going on the fact that combat is being changed, and combat is a major aspect of a mmorpg, 1.18 has the full potential to add very enjoyable aspects to the game (grand companies missions, dungeons, new quests etcetera), which means that it could easily add more *positive points* (that are already sorely lacking in this review) to a review.
Those tend to be rather relevant too, you know?

[Jynx]

but i was just saying even if they posted it afterwards people would still say it was written too soon because this or that is not done.

While it would happen, the ammount of people and their logical footing would be far weaker than it is right now.

As it stands there is perfectly sound reasoning to call someone out for releasing the review at this point in time, after 1.18 and 1.19 a month+ away? Not so much.

[Reika]

That review reminds me of the old cartoon 'The Critic' In how she just basically said "It Stinks"

Really... one wharf rat kill and she thinks she knows the games future.