mmorpg's review

[Physic]

Very doubtful. The moderating team in this forum is extremely lenient even with evident trolls. That's why some posting around here, filling the forums with disgusting hyperboles, gratuitous bashing and pure venom are still allowed to do so.

Which is indeed a pity.




The review not only isn't legit, but it's also extremely poorly written and misinformative.

1: it comes four days before a major patch. A patch that was announced and that any gaming journalist worth their salt should know about. If the review was written a lot of time ago, then it should have simply voided and rewritten after. When you're too slow to proofread/greenlighted your articles, then maybe you shouldn't do this job.
2: it's full of hyperbolic statements, that are the worst enemies of a fair review.
3: the reviewer doesn't even know how to write a review. Lumping up the functionality of the UI in the graphics would make any even slightly experienced writer laugh is rear off.

It's absolutely funny how some rabid haters (that must be somehow obsessed with this game, considering that they do nothing else than spit on it at every single post they write, yet they are completely unable to let go and move on like any sane person would do) would bend over twice to defend any review that speaks negatively of the game they hate. No matter if it flies in the face of logic, reality and the very basics of journalistic integrity.

Funny little tidbit, i wrote to the mmorpg.com community manager just to see if he saw reason, and he immediately rescinded my ban as it wasn't justified. At least someone in that site knows what's fair.

the beefs he has are accurate, the disclaimer is accurate, his review is not that different from reviews 3 months ago, or 6 months ago, because not much has changed. I understand you think people should wait for major content patches, but there is no real journalistic reason to.


After 10 months the entire worth of your game is assumed to not depend on 1 patch. Maybe for this game it may happen one day, but you cant hold a journalistic community up to what may one day be, or what is coming next. Realistically most of her issues arent meant to be dealth with in this next patch, so her review coming now wont matter. The projected date for a review that might make people change thier tunes is not till after sept most likely, since they have said what they expect to have done by 1.20.

Its not the end of the world, but it is an accurate review of the game as it stands, we ll see how accurate it will be in 4 days, but it will probably be accurate still.

[Abriael]

the beefs he has are accurate

Some are, most are overdramatized and full of hyperbole (which voids the "accurate" part). Exactly like many you could copy/paste from forums, mind you. Most definitely they don't look written by a professional gaming journo.
Of course the review is even more accurate because the writer conveniently forgot to write about quite a few relevant positive aspects of the game.

While simple list of cherry picked beef can most certanly satisfy the haters, that's not what a review is.

the disclaimer is accurate

No. It's not, as it calls officially confirmed data "rumors".

his review is not that different from reviews 3 months ago, or 6 months ago, because not much has changed.

You must be playing a different game than I do, Or must have not been here six months ago.

I understand you think people should wait for major content patches, but there is no real journalistic reason to.

The fact that a review has a fairly big possibility to become obsolete, irrelevant and misleading four days after publishing it is a HELL of a journalistic reason to hold it back.

Maybe for this game it may happen one day, but you cant hold a journalistic community up to what may one day be, or what is coming next.

Journalistic community? Lol. Who are we kidding? We aren't talking about the "journalistic community" (of which, mind you, I've been part for a long, long while), we're talking about a site that didn't publish the review of a game for 10 months, for some weird reason, and then randomly came up with one very conveniently four days before a major update. That's idiotic and unprofessional at best, fishy at worst.

Its not the end of the world, but it is an accurate review of the game as it stands, we ll see how accurate it will be in 4 days, but it will probably be accurate still.

The extensive use of hyperbole makes it inaccurate by definition. Now, and even more so in 4 days.

[darkstarpoet1]

we have to remember a review of the game was posted and all reviews are based purely off someones opinion on the game. we may not agree with it, but because i don't agree with everything they said does not make it wrong. i don't want auto-attack, but that does not make your reasoning for wanting it wrong. i don't want jump in game, but it doesn't make others wrong for wanting it.

if we have more reasonable discussions instead of the constant go play the other game responses that are always thrown around maybe more could at least understand where the opinions come from. just because his review does not fit what you believe to be accurate does not mean his is inaccurate. the thing is we all have a habit of throwing insults anytime someone disagrees with us. the fact is his review is only one opinion.

you would attack me if i wrote an honest review of what i feel about the game at this point also. on release i felt the game was round a 5.1-6.0 and even though some think it's gotten better i would put a ranking around a 4.0-4.5 at this point. just because my opinion differs from yours does not mean either of us is wrong, but noting more than we see things differently.

Which is exactly what any gaming journalist with a shred of integrity would do, at this point.

yes, they could have waited a week and put out a review afterwards, but then people are gonna shout about how this was just the first step in changing and wait til 1.20. then they will push it back even farther and clam the next one is the golden patch. the thing is if the changes do drastically change the things they bring up in the review then it becomes irrelevant, but until they do it's relevant to them.

[Reika]

we have to remember a review of the game was posted and all reviews are based purely off someones opinion on the game. we may not agree with it, but because i don't agree with everything they said does not make it wrong. i don't want auto-attack, but that does not make your reasoning for wanting it wrong. i don't want jump in game, but it doesn't make others wrong for wanting it.

if we have more reasonable discussions instead of the constant go play the other game responses that are always thrown around maybe more could at least understand where the opinions come from. just because his review does not fit what you believe to be accurate does not mean his is inaccurate. the thing is we all have a habit of throwing insults anytime someone disagrees with us. the fact is his review is only one opinion.

you would attack me if i wrote an honest review of what i feel about the game at this point also. on release i felt the game was round a 5.1-6.0 and even though some think it's gotten better i would put a ranking around a 4.0-4.5 at this point. just because my opinion differs from yours does not mean either of us is wrong, but noting more than we see things differently.

Yea, but writing a review KNOWING theres pretty much a ginormous patch coming in the week you write the review, and only stating the current negatives but not what the patch is going to bring, is a big waste of time, both to write and to read.

[darkstarpoet1]

Yea, but writing a review KNOWING theres pretty much a ginormous patch coming in the week you write the review, and only stating the current negatives but not what the batch is going to bring, is a big waste of time, both to write and to read.

now that i completely agree with that what is coming should have been mentioned, but they cannot give rave reviews on anything that is not in game yet. the only other thing about saying what is coming in this patch is we do not even know how much of it will play into the system to make things better or worse so it'd be hard to talk it up until then. they should have mentioned the upcoming changes and that's about as far as they could have went with it.

i agree that waiting until after the patch was probably the smartest thing to do, but i was just saying even if they posted it afterwards people would still say it was written too soon because this or that is not done.

[Reika]

Then the woman should have waited instead of giving a review that wont last through the week. instead she had to take some silly screen shots of the beginning of the game with her newly created pug that she killed one whole wharf rat with and blast the game in its soon to be altered entirety.

[Jynx]

but i was just saying even if they posted it afterwards people would still say it was written too soon because this or that is not done.

While it would happen, the ammount of people and their logical footing would be far weaker than it is right now.

As it stands there is perfectly sound reasoning to call someone out for releasing the review at this point in time, after 1.18 and 1.19 a month+ away? Not so much.

[Reika]

That review reminds me of the old cartoon 'The Critic' In how she just basically said "It Stinks"

Really... one wharf rat kill and she thinks she knows the games future.

[Jynx]

yes, they could have waited a week and put out a review afterwards, but then people are gonna shout about how this was just the first step in changing and wait til 1.20.

My FFXIV Review: Blah blah blah, game sucks as is, blah blah blah.

Score. 3/10

Now...when to post this, lets say...four days before my entire review will become obsolete. I could...you know wait for a few days and make sure all my facts check out and whatnot.

But screw that shit! Journalistic integrity is for babies.

POST!

[Abriael]

we have to remember a review of the game was posted and all reviews are based purely off someones opinion on the game. we may not agree with it, but because i don't agree with everything they said does not make it wrong. i don't want auto-attack, but that does not make your reasoning for wanting it wrong. i don't want jump in game, but it doesn't make others wrong for wanting it.

A review is not an opinion piece. A rant is an opinion piece (and a poor one). A review needs to be solidly based on facts. Not on hyperbole. On facts.
This one simply isn't.

If you feel that the game at this point is worth a 4/4.5, that's a good reason why you aren't a gaming journalist. Because just like the one that wrote this review you arn't able to fairly assess the pros and cons of a game (and I'm giving her the benefit of doubt by chalking the poor review simply to lack of competence, because there are some clear elements that indicate lazyness and/or intentional bashing, which is way worse in a journalist).

yes, they could have waited a week and put out a review afterwards, but then people are gonna shout about how this was just the first step in changing and wait til 1.20. then they will push it back even farther and clam the next one is the golden patch. the thing is if the changes do drastically change the things they bring up in the review then it becomes irrelevant, but until they do it's relevant to them.

Sorry mate, but you should know better than pulling such an extreme strawman rgument.
There's a big and wide difference between posting a review months before a major patch and doing it four days before.

You continue to harp on the fact that the rants listed in the review won't be changed by 1.18, but again, a review is (and should be) *not* just a list of complaints.

Without even going on the fact that combat is being changed, and combat is a major aspect of a mmorpg, 1.18 has the full potential to add very enjoyable aspects to the game (grand companies missions, dungeons, new quests etcetera), which means that it could easily add more *positive points* (that are already sorely lacking in this review) to a review.
Those tend to be rather relevant too, you know?