Primal mounts and their effect on player health/sanity.

[Shougun]

I feel like the only person here who likes some vanity items being really rare. If you've ever gotten a super rare drop in any other game, it feels amazing! It's not an accomplishment (unless you want to brag about the hundreds or thousands of times you did something); but it is really great. I've seen a couple of these rare mounts running around and I just think, "that person must be so happy to have gotten that!" Sure, I'd like it too, but I don't feel animosity toward that person nor do I feel like I deserve one.

SE put some fun random drops into the game. The reason people want one so bad is because they know they probably won't get one. There are plenty of mounts to earn. You don't need these primal mounts. If this was the only way to get a mount or the only way to get a faster mount, then I would understand.

It reminds me of all the people trying their hardest to bring back the Lightning event (before we were told it was coming back). But for most people it wasn't too much to say, "hey, the event is over. You'll never get that stuff," and it is much easier to accept. But with this...the thought that it is possible and they don't have it...just eats away at them. Please don't ruin this for the lucky people who did get one or will get one.

Having fun through interaction > having fun by having what others can't have. Imo. Every item should be fairly and realistically obtainable.

For probability the % chance can be discussed as fair but the end results cannot be. If someone does 1 run, gets it, vs someone who did 1000 runs.. it is pretty stupid system imho.


I can understand the idea of being "special" "the lucky one" but I think the imaginary "fun points" is far greater when people can actually have hope and direction, and can experience said content (interaction). For very very few things I suppose the content dying forever makes sense- but otherwise there is no reason content should be dead and gone forever (seasonal vanity is on a yearly cycle, thats lockout enough imo- I mean honestly a year loot lockout.. a year.. its enough to make the event exciting for players who missed it or pieces of it).

imo imo (how fun is distributed is all "imo" talks anyways lol).

[Kota_Foxfrey]

I prefer my MMORPGs with time and effort over luck any day of the week and those elemental horses are by far the coolest looking mounts in the game imo regardless of rarity. A real shame they barred them behind such ridiculous odds (800 to 1). If you factor in that no static in their right mind would farm these for long and if you were to pug it, you would get a lot of fail groups no matter how hard you try to carry them, echo or not, with 1 shot kills in every primal ex.

Even with a good farm group, you are looking at 10-20mins a kill. Most farm groups don't last longer then 8 kills. Say you're insanely lucky and see one drop, then you got to lot against 7 other people.. you lose the roll. Now you have to start all over. Pretty lame.

Please reconsider the ways to obtain these SE. I'd do ex primals more if there was any real incentive. Just take the casting lots out of it and leave 1% rare so everyone in the party gets one when 1% triggers and everyone would be happy.

[Tonka]

I hear ya. I know from reading this thread that pretty much nobody agrees with me, so I won't be surprised when SE caves.

I just don't want anyone to misunderstand me. It's not about lording my luck over everyone, should I ever get one. It's about having items in the game that are super special. Exciting to see and get (should you be so lucky). There are quite a few different ways to get mounts. This is but one way.

There are a couple mounts from 1.0 that are exclusive and can never be earned again (I hope). That's content people can never have the "hope" to experience. With the primal mounts, at least there is some hope.

[Daniolaut]

These mounts are intended to be rare items for players who have already cleared the extreme primal battles, to incentivize players to continue and challenge these fights. At this time there are no plans to make any adjustments to the primal mounts, but if anything changes we will be sure to update you.

I agree with Camate.

Not everything in the game needs to be so easily handed to you. If you dont feel that the mount is worth farming then certainly you wont appreciate it if you get it so why would you farm it? For those who do find it worth while, and enjoy playing the game dont mind farming it because they enjoy farming the fights to obtain the item. If youre someone who just wants the mount and dont want to farm the fight then you obviously dont want the mount/item bad enough and i suggest focusing your efforts on something you do enjoy. there is so much in this game fussing over 1 specific item/mount is beyond silly.

[Kota_Foxfrey]

Not everything in the game needs to be so easily handed to you. If you dont feel that the mount is worth farming then certainly you wont appreciate it if you get it so why would you farm it? For those who do find it worth while, and enjoy playing the game dont mind farming it because they enjoy farming the fights to obtain the item. If youre someone who just wants the mount and dont want to farm the fight then you obviously dont want the mount/item bad enough and i suggest focusing your efforts on something you do enjoy.

If you were able to farm it, that would be fine like do an ex primal 500 times (10-20mins per win) but with these current odds it is really not, which is the point we are making. People that have one are just very lucky. You could farm these forever until you died irl and never get one all depending on luck which is the major problem. So earning them isn't really a option. Kinda like winning the lottery.

[Tonka]

If you were able to farm it, that would be fine like do an ex primal 500 times (10-20mins per win) but with these current odds it is really not, which is the point we are making. People that have one are just very lucky. You could farm these forever until you died irl and never get one all depending on luck which is the major problem. So earning them isn't really a option. Kinda like winning the lottery.

And there's no way a filthy casual like me will ever be able to do an ex primal 500 times. There are achievements with in-game rewards for doing content a ridiculous amount of times. What does it hurt to have a small handful of lottery-like rewards?

I completely understand people wanting to get all of the things, but I just don't see how it takes away from the game to have a few very low drop-rate vanity items. If the drop rate is not worth your time, then don't do the dungeon. The mounts are meant to be rare.

Anyway, once SE inevitably caves (and I kind of hope they do since it'd make so many of you happy and I'm kinda alone on this one), people will get it and it'll be just another ho-hum mount that gets bundled with rest. Nothing all that great.

[Dayala]

I still think we should get a reward for killing Leviathan 500+ times with no mirror or mounts dropping (like me) or at least a in-game title that declares you a Legend against all odds when you meet the no mirror no mount drops after a set number of kills.

[Kota_Foxfrey]

And there's no way a filthy casual like me will ever be able to do an ex primal 500 times.

Why would you care? Unless that is a 2nd character, you don't even have a single lv50 so I'm not sure why you're posting about endgame issues that you haven't even experienced yet.

There's nothing wrong with being casual but the mounts are meant to be incentive for players who have cleared the primals as stated by SE. And it is a slap in the face to players who want to follow that incentive when the odds are so bad that you done it over 500 times and never even seen a horse drop much less lot on one against 7 others. So when you put that much effort in, let me know how you feel about their current system.

[DukeBurden]

Lol @ "filthy casual". XD

[Artaru]

So because he doesn't have a Level 50 character in this game, yet, he isn't allowed to have an opinion on this? Yeah ok.