Primal mounts and their effect on player health/sanity.

[kidvideo]

huge difference between signing up for randomness and having it being forced upon you.

Lord... next everyone will be claiming SE bullied them with rng.

Come on! It's an rpg. The entire genre has evolved out of pen & paper, table top games that used dice.

[Gilraen]

Quoting myself for this as it seems it's necessary...

Like the elemental horses could, instead of being a random drop, be a secondary purchase using the extreme primal tokens. Gives players a reason to do the fights at least one more time.

You get tokens for completing the extreme primals. Usually these are used to buy what I call the Bahamut weapons. You need three tokens, one from each of the first three extreme primals, and each is a guaranteed drop to those who particpate. It'd be easy to give them another thing to buy outside of the now defunct weapons.

Rowena Tokens... no, just no. You don't even have to look at the extreme primals for those.

The 'those' here are Rowena's Tokens as each one costs 130 soldiery and you can get that in a couple hours, easy.

[silentwindfr]

My God, they could put a lottery in this game and people would complain about the RNG of it. I'm starting to wonder what kinda threads I'll be reading when the Golden Saucer is finally released.

i have sub to a mmorpg, not a casino-simulation game...
not everyone love gamble, i'm not fond of it... then why it's forced on me?

it recall me a story from wow, a friend of mine was dreaming to get the mount droping on the baron of stratholm, the stuff had a 0.01% or something like this to drop... he did play WoW for 6 years and did countless run of this place... he simply never did see it droping. do you think it was feeling happy? do you think he was enjoying redo the same content for age a number of time that near crazy for nothing? the answer was no, he was bitter to death at the end, because one of our friend just did start the game and did stratholm one time and did get it.

it's that fair? no
it's that rewarding the effort put for get it? no!
it's that fun? ...do i have really to answer this one?

Grind for Grind, RNG involved or not... is not fun! it's a work! we don't sub for a work! we sub for have fun with our friend! when it become teddious work... we did loose the purpose to subs to the game. that as simple than this!

[Tsuwu]

If this describes your gaming behavior, then you should seek help from a mental healthcare professional.

I think a lot of people who play XIV are addicted and are having a hard time coming to terms with it.
Completionists with ACTUAL (I don't mean in the lolIorganizemybookssometimes way) OCD should -never- play an MMO.
You just have to let go sometimes, OP.

I've seen 3 mounts, and I never farm. Lost them all.

They're not meant to be a 40 hour a week job. They're meant to be that extremely unexpected adrenaline rush you get on the odd occasion that it does drop.

There's no boost to it. The joy you get from sitting on a pony in Mor Dhona gloating will never be commensurate with the agony you'll suffer farming it. For your own well being and sense of fun, go do something else. Doesn't have to be in game. Just self-observe. And move on.

[ispano]

Quoting myself for this as it seems it's necessary...
You get tokens for completing the extreme primals. Usually these are used to buy what I call the Bahamut weapons. You need three tokens, one from each of the first three extreme primals, and each is a guaranteed drop to those who particpate. It'd be easy to give them another thing to buy outside of the now defunct weapons.
The 'those' here are Rowena's Tokens as each one costs 130 soldiery and you can get that in a couple hours, easy.

http://xivdb.com/?item/7004/Rowena%27s-Token <- What you get for the Extreme Weekly Quest.

http://xivdb.com/?item/7811/Rowena%2...%28Soldiery%29 <- What you get for 130 Soldiery.

So, you were saying?

[silentwindfr]

snips

Exept my friend, all the game begin to be like this... more and more rng stuff was added, more and more teddious grind are added. this rush of adrenaline it's short... why place short fun time in a game they want us to stay in... why not work on the fun factor of the game? why add boring grind ot it

[Gilraen]

http://xivdb.com/?item/7004/Rowena%27s-Token <- What you get for the Extreme Weekly Quest.

http://xivdb.com/?item/7811/Rowena%2...%28Soldiery%29 <- What you get for 130 Soldiery.

So, you were saying?

Wow, seriously? So instead of calling them... I don't know if that's lazy or miscommunication between dev teams.

[Mjytresz]

666.66~ hours.

Half Life 3 confirmed.

[SendohJin]

even if they were the same item, it's no big deal since Soldiery has a weekly cap. if you want to spend 3 weeks of your weekly Soldiery cap to buy a mount, that's your choice to do so.

[NorthernLadMSP]

I've beat the four EX primals about 100 times (all of them combined), have never once seen any of the mounts drop. It's rather frustrating b/c I see people all over my server with them, black unicorn included.