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    Before this thread hit another page let us end it nw.

    They are meant to be rare, you are meant to spend time farming for them, this creates value owning one, it's not a "me too" item. Deal with it, if you have OCD so much you gotta catch em all, then you need mental help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karnyboy View Post
    Before this thread hit another page let us end it nw.

    They are meant to be rare, you are meant to spend time farming for them, this creates value owning one, it's not a "me too" item. Deal with it, if you have OCD so much you gotta catch em all, then you need mental help.
    What's the point in having an item that only 10 people will ever have ?
    It does not give any reason to farm a boss, it is not rewarding since it's all luck based.
    Even for the devs, making something that for 99.9999% of the population won't even be able to use.
    These mounts would not exist that it wouldn't change anything, i don't even care, i just don't want that they put useless things in the game.
    At least they are all CTRL+C CTRL+V of the unicorn.
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    Last edited by lololink; 08-05-2014 at 09:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lololink View Post
    What's the point in having an item that only 10 people will ever have ?
    What's the point in having an item that everyone has?
    It does give you a reason to farm a boss, it is rewarding regardless of if its luck based.
    I'd prefer to have something special rather than an in game equivalent of a big mac.
    If a rare item exists you don't have to choose to go after it, but if a rare item doesn't exist I can't choose to go after it.

    And what are you talking about? Everything in the game is useless. There is nothing in this game that everyone will agree to being of use.
    You know what I want more than anything in this game? Its 500 pieces of new vanity armor to either craft or farm for, screw adding more progression gear. I find progression gear worthless personally.
    You know what the worst part of getting the Atma was? It was the myth farming part in my opinion, not getting the stones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lololink View Post
    What's the point in having an item that only 10 people will ever have ?
    Welcome to good MMORPGs - where some items can be and should be rare and not everyone is entitled to it. If you hadn't noticed by now once MMOs starts giving everyone everything the companies have been having a hard time keeping content life span lengthy and well designed, this includes even Blizzard.

    It does not give any reason to farm a boss, it is not rewarding since it's all luck based.
    Extreme Primals you can get - Accessories and Weapons (guaranteed drops aside ramuh weapons I believe), with the side benefit of Mirrors (Levi) and Mounts (all ex primals.) You farm them for their main drops as you will always benefit farming the primal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Welcome to good MMORPGs - where some items can be and should be rare and not everyone is entitled to it. If you hadn't noticed by now once MMOs starts giving everyone everything the companies have been having a hard time keeping content life span lengthy and well designed, this includes even Blizzard.
    I will take examples : The Priest staff and Hunter bow in WoW, a few people had these, they were challenging, long, difficult quests, same goes for legendary weapons, only a few people had these, they were rare but you could have them if you worked for them and it's rewarding.

    These mounts have a too low RNG to really be farmed, you have to farm the primal all the time and then fight with 7 players to have them, it's just pure luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lololink View Post
    I will take examples : The Priest staff and Hunter bow in WoW, a few people had these, they were challenging, long, difficult quests, same goes for legendary weapons, only a few people had these, they were rare but you could have them if you worked for them and it's rewarding.

    These mounts have a too low RNG to really be farmed, you have to farm the primal all the time and then fight with 7 players to have them, it's just pure luck.
    Bad comparison. A better comparison would be the Deathcharger from Stratholme. But we already talked about that. The reason your example was bad is that we're talking about vanity items, those weapons, were usable items. That's why, even though rare, you could work for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Bad comparison. A better comparison would be the Deathcharger from Stratholme. But we already talked about that. The reason your example was bad is that we're talking about vanity items, those weapons, were usable items. That's why, even though rare, you could work for them.
    The mount for defeating Yog'saron 0 then. Hard to get, but sure to get. It's vanity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lololink View Post
    The mount for defeating Yog'saron 0 then. Hard to get, but sure to get. It's vanity.
    That was only one of the ones you needed. You needed all the other Ulduar achieves for the mount. I should know, I have it. And that's the thing, even WITH those mounts, there are other mounts in WoW that are still locked behind low chance RNG.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kota_Foxfrey View Post
    I really don't see why they have to make primal mounts so luck dependent. I'd much rather work for it. Like beat Levi EX 200 or even 500 times. I'd much rather see people that put in the time earn things then some lottery BS where you can do it 2000 times and never even see one drop just cause you have bad luck while some other guy gets it on their 2nd try... I can understand casuals not liking that idea so maybe it would be nice if we could have it both ways. As in you either get lucky or you grind it out. But as it stands now this isn't a grind, just playing the RNG slot machines over and over hoping for the jackpot luck...
    That's because you're looking at it the wrong way. You see it as something you're entitled to and/or should be able to get no matter what, when it's simply a bonus item. People really need to stop trying to make rare items not rare. People think it's good to make it easier for them to get when it actually hurts the game for everyone being able to get everything easily.

    So, farm them if you want, but they're rare for a reason. You just need to deal with it.
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    Last edited by ispano; 08-05-2014 at 09:20 PM.