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  1. #31
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    Kaaylryn's Avatar
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    Yshelle Dawnholder
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    RNG, unfortunately, has been applied to almost every aspect of this game. At least the beast tribe minions and mounts are a rep grind which is fine and expected. Dungeon drop RNG is also expected although skewed a lot of times. There are things that I simply will not attempt due to the RNG factor.

    I have done none piesteskin maps daily for almost a year and not one minion, or blue fox hide or rush grass. My novus will likely never be finished to my stat satisfaction due to the RNG of first getting useable materia and then affixing said materia, all based on RNG. This is notwithstanding the horrendous ATMA RNG grind to get to the Animus in the first place.

    Desynth is something I started but won't finish due to RNG. Of all the primal runs, I have only seen the mount from Levi Ex once, nothing ever from the other primals. If anything makes me stop playing this game, it will be the heavy reliance on RNG for everything. A certain amount of grind I can handle, but heavy grind plus heavy RNG grates on the nerves after a while.
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    I have no prayer for that...

  2. #32
    Player Alukah's Avatar
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    Alukah Bast
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    Excalibur
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaaylryn View Post
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    And on top of all of that they are gating all new vanity items behind more and more extreme grind, causing things like this:







    + Augmented AF
    + Shiny primal weapons

    Not saying that it should be a handout like some people seem to think, but there's no need to take RNG to the extreme to the point where it kills the fun.
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  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    The problem is, after you've obtained every weapon (which you will eventually do), what's the point in going back? You've exhausted the fun factor by that point, and you can't even desynth the damn things.
    it's so terrible that they obsolete the content so quickly and make no attempts to revive it when it's actually very simple to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Doki View Post
    They should totally be purchased for 10+ Rowena tokens, with Nightmare costing 15+ tokens, and then a quest to turn them all in to get Slepnir.
    something like this would be great.
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  4. #34
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    Gilraen's Avatar
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 70
    I agree that the hurdles to get purely vanity items is getting ridiculous. I get that they want people to do the new content that they developed but locking vanity items behind said content is out there. Now, I'm not saying hand them out. Like the elemental horses could, instead of being a random drop, be a secondary purchase using the extreme primal tokens. Gives players a reason to do the fights at least one more time. Rowena Tokens... no, just no. You don't even have to look at the extreme primals for those. And alot of the problems with melding could easily be solved by letting the crafter's stats MEAN SOMETHING towards it! What good is having 390~ crafting stats if all they do is unlock more crafting tree. I've sat and watched a crafter with Steady Hand II fail 6-7 steps in a row, it's was crazy!
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  5. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    Like the elemental horses could, instead of being a random drop, be a secondary purchase using the extreme primal tokens. Gives players a reason to do the fights at least one more time. Rowena Tokens... no, just no. You don't even have to look at the extreme primals for those.
    the only way to get Rowena's Tokens is with Extreme Primals, what are you saying?
    (1)

  6. #36
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    Vigo's Avatar
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    Vigo Martel
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    Coeurl
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    My God, they could put a lottery in this game and people would complain about the RNG of it. I'm starting to wonder what kinda threads I'll be reading when the Golden Saucer is finally released.
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  7. #37
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    Orophin Calmcacil
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Noshpan View Post
    Sadly, as was posted in another thread, the ARR developers use a "true RNG" algorithm to determine what loot drops.

    Of all the times that I've seen Scylla's Coat of Casting, it has dropped once... and I didn't win the roll. (I rolled a freaking 4.) Sure, there's better chest pieces out there, but if I want to be able to do second coil (after I've unlocked it, of course) then I need something better than what I have now. I refuse to get the Evenstar Coat because I hate the "tail condom".
    Glamour it, that's what the system is for. :P
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  8. #38
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    the only way to get Rowena's Tokens is with Extreme Primals, what are you saying?
    Guess you didn't read the sentences before the one you focused on.
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  9. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Vigo View Post
    My God, they could put a lottery in this game and people would complain about the RNG of it. I'm starting to wonder what kinda threads I'll be reading when the Golden Saucer is finally released.
    huge difference between signing up for randomness and having it being forced upon you.
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  10. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    Guess you didn't read the sentences before the one you focused on.
    i did.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    You don't even have to look at the extreme primals for those.
    what is "those"?
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