So votekick >abuse< is practically allowed?

[Totobi]

I've been in hundreds of DF's since vote kick was added and have never been kicked. If you keep getting kicked from DF's maybe YOU are the problem and not the system?

[Hikoko]

No, it's not allowed. This is a pretty clear-cut example of a GM being a lazy sap. Resend the report and point out specifically why it doesn't fall under the heading of "differing playstyle".

This was already the 2nd report. The first was regarded as "player dispute", same result.

If the answer was "Yes" to any of those last four questions

None of these questions are answered with yes. If that was the case, the GM would've told me that the kick was justified for that matter and not that it's player dispute/different playstyle.

Also, mind posting that last message GM mentioned on that reply? Omitting player names ofc.

It was just an automated response explaining how different playstyles ("skipping in-game cutscenes, disagreement on using specific boss encounter tactics, equipment deemed not high enough etc") are nothing the GM cares about.

If you keep getting kicked from DF's maybe YOU are the problem and not the system?

I don't know why you are assuming I keep getting kicked, when I said I've been kicked once. No, I'm not getting kicked all the time, but it's really nice to know that you've been in hundreds of duty finder groups.

Yeah, except this never happens.

Just because you haven't heard about it, doesn't mean it hasn't happened.
Besides that, it was just one example.

Why deal with a newbie when you can just kick him?
"Sorry, your damage is high enough to beat this dungeon, but we would like to clear it faster".
Or something like "Oh, you don't have the equipment for a speedrun? Bye".


I didn't open this thread to QQ that my report didn't get accepted. I wanted to show that the votekick system is broken because you can easily avoid punishment for kicking players you don't want to play with (for whatever reason - when it's not their fault) by either stating he has a different playstyle before kicking him ("We would like you to do everything. Oh you don't want to do that, well okay bye") or by provoking an argument with the player and then kicking him (making it a player dispute, in which the GM does not interfere as stated by other players aswell).
These are examples exaggerated, but you get the idea. And again, I emphasize examples. There are more.

Before implementing the system, they said they wanted to make sure it's not being abused, and then they added a policy that leaves open doors for everything who WANTS to abuse it.
ust make up a reason and kick the player for your actual reasoning (too s; the GM will just agree with the person who votekicked. Whether this happens once or a thousand times doesn't matter: It happens and it's unfair and the GMs either don't care or aren't allowed to act properly due to the offical, flawed policy.

[Mogi]

I've been in hundreds of DF's since vote kick was added and have never been kicked. If you keep getting kicked from DF's maybe YOU are the problem and not the system?

Or you have never ran into rude or dumb players yet {trust me you will} that aside SE is far from perfect i was cussed out by 2 guys that had the same fc and got vote kicked and when i reported the GMs did nothing