SMN BIS 2.3

[Dwill]

Note that for this post I will be using the coefficients from http://ffxiv.ariyala.com (even though my testing has shown that crit should be weighted higher than this)

With the huge primary stats we gain in 2.2, CRT and DET are pretty much of equal value.

I'm gonna assume were playing the same game. I've personally tried both books on T6, T8 and striking dummies. The Book of Spades for me, seems to tick higher for each DoT on average then the HA Book. I can only contribute this to the amount of DET in between the books despite that one clearly has more *Magic Attack* and Intelligence. If two magic attack was such a decisive increase then by no means should 31 DET be even ticking on average similar numbers.

Also your builds are uneven, one is using food , one isnt. One is also substituting a large amount of Int for a spike in DET which is also largely uneven in comparison to your other build.

Simply keeping the same build and switch the books, will suffice. The shift should be 3INT + 2 MAttk(High Allagan Book) vs 31 DET (Either Novus or BoS) if your using the same to compare.

I fixed the mistake with food in the first post and

Your second claim is not true either:

Even value CRT and DET Build 1 using full CRT and DET Novus: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/NGQV (Even CRT and DET build came out the exact same as DET oriented build in the first post due to how itemization is done).
Even value CRT and DET Build 2 using High Allagan: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/NGR0

Bio
(77*.2714745 + 576*.1006032 + (330-202)*.0241327 + 77*576*.0036167 + 77*(330-202)*.0010800 - 1) * (40/100) * 1.3 * (1 + 0.5*(0.0697 * 535 - 18.437)/100) = 143.3877
(75*.2714745 + 573*.1006032 + (363-202)*.0241327 + 75*573*.0036167 + 75*(363-202)*.0010800 - 1) * (40/100) * 1.3 * (1 + 0.5*(0.0697 * 535 - 18.437)/100) = 141.8901

Bio II and Miasma
(77*.2714745 + 576*.1006032 + (330-202)*.0241327 + 77*576*.0036167 + 77*(330-202)*.0010800 - 1) * (35/100) * 1.3 * (1 + 0.5*(0.0697 * 535 - 18.437)/100) = 125.4643
(75*.2714745 + 573*.1006032 + (363-202)*.0241327 + 75*573*.0036167 + 75*(363-202)*.0010800 - 1) * (35/100) * 1.3 * (1 + 0.5*(0.0697 * 535 - 18.437)/100) = 124.1538

Fester
(77*.2714745 + 576*.1006032 + (330-202)*.0241327 + 77*576*.0036167 + 77*(330-202)*.0010800 - 1) * (300/100) * 1.3 * (1 + 0.5*(0.0697 * 535 - 18.437)/100) = 1075.4084
(75*.2714745 + 573*.1006032 + (363-202)*.0241327 + 75*573*.0036167 + 75*(363-202)*.0010800 - 1) * (300/100) * 1.3 * (1 + 0.5*(0.0697 * 535 - 18.437)/100) = 1064.1758

If you factor in the difference in the Spell Speed difference as well, Build 2 will yield about 1.5% more damage than Build 1. That's also excluding the difference in Enhanced Pet actions procs, which in itself is harder to quantify.

You are correct when saying that it is better to keep a balance between both CRT and DET but your theory of DoTs being stronger with a full DET/CRT Novus than High Allagan is still wrong, High Allagan is still better.

* Thanks for the correction but I left out the extra Crit and Spell speed the HA book gives, because these two stats are not direct modifiers of damage like INT/DET or WD.

CRT while not a direct damage stats is still a damage modifying stats which can be calculated to give an average damage value of an ability.

[pacifist0rz]

With the huge primary stats we gain in 2.2, CRT and DET are pretty much of equal value.

Yep that is what I was trying to say with the part of my statement in (). http://ffxiv.ariyala.com has det being weighted higher than crit, but my testing shows that crit is actually slightly beter than det now.

Here's my BiS btw. I made this at the beginning of 2.2 when accuracy caps were discovered and this list I cooked up has a perfect amount of accuracy

I am not sure where your list came from, but the link below is the BIS build using your coefficients (which are the same as http://ffxiv.ariyala.com coefficients)

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/NGS1

Thinking 2 Int is worth more then 40+ DET is horrendous.

Your statement is a massive exaggeration; no one anywhere is arguing that 2 int is better than 40 DET. 1 int is worth 3.5 det based on the http://ffxiv.ariyala.com coefficients. I am probably as anti-det as anyone comes, and my personal testing has shown it to be more like 1 int is worth ~6 det.