Of PvP & Protect Spell

[Vandril]

Paladin is a counter class to melee. DEF is eliminated, thus def increasing skills become obsolete other than to act as a buff filter. Percent reduc skills like sentinel still have effect as they reduce damage by a flat out %. This makes paladins very strong in 1 on 1.

This is true. In most 1v1 fights, I am taking an average of about 25% (totally guestimated) less damage than my enemy solely due to CDs, now that I think about it. And that would explain the gap I'm seeing.

Honestly, I don't know how you people can pvp and not notice these things. Think of the logistics of what would happen if def was enabled. Ever notice how dungeon mobs can 1/2 shot most classes, but the tank classes can take multiple of them on without needing cooldowns? Because their def/mdef is at least double. IF def was enabled tanks would be sooo hard to kill in comparison with regular classes, much like in pve. In fl/wd they are sturdier due to their defensive cooldowns and larger HP pool. But they still die pretty quickly too.

Well, in my case, I didn't notice because I go out of my way to hit anything except tanks. I always assumed Def/MDef worked in FL since Morale wasn't in effect, so I avoided hitting tanks if there was any other target nearby. And I don't much pay attention to the numbers my abilities deal in damage. I focus mainly on my enemy's health bar and go by percentages, when I'm trying to determine my damage. I could turn my floating combat text off and not notice the difference.

All in all, this revelation won't change much in how I play Frontlines. At most, it'll make me not bother using Protect after dying, unless I think it'll be worth using to soak a dispel. Tanks are still more tanky, DPS still do more damage, and Healers are still going to die by my Shield Bash Spa-er, I mean hand. So, yeah, not much has changed.

[Divinemight]

Update on this issue. It is confirmed that defense values does not work in the Frontline is working as intended:

こんばんは。

フロントラインでは、ウルヴズジェイル同様に物理防御力／魔法防御力は無効にしており、
その前提でバトルのバランスも調整しています。

そのためフォーサイトやプロテスのような物理防御力をのばすアクションも効果はありません。

The god damn morale has ruined a lot of thing. They are balance the Frontline based on the framework of Wolf Den where defense values doesnt work because of morale. Protect, Foresight, and Fey Covenant doesnt work because of the stupid Morale?

[Gor]

Update on this issue. It is confirmed that defense values does not work in the Frontline is working as intended:



The god damn morale has ruined a lot of thing. They are balance the Frontline based on the framework of Wolf Den where defense values doesnt work because of morale. Protect, Foresight, and Fey Covenant doesnt work because of the stupid Morale?

Lame. Then I retract my earlier statement ... its still useful tho for buff munchers and I'll still cast it on my party members. Still no reason not to tho. Altho it does kind of suck, players have learned to adapt to the minus morale environment even if the Protect icon is just a placebo

[Vandril]

Lame. Then I retract my earlier statement ... its still useful tho for buff munchers and I'll still cast it on my party members. Still no reason not to tho. Altho it does kind of suck, players have learned to adapt to the minus morale environment even if the Protect icon is just a placebo

And a placebo it is, because I was totally convinced that it worked. XD

[Gor]

And a placebo it is, because I was totally convinced that it worked. XD

Me too! I guess the bright side is I can now use that Prot slot for another more useful cross skill in 30s arenas