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  1. #81
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    Logo's Avatar
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    Thera Logo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nayto View Post
    1. Damage reduction abilities are still usefull. Sentinel and rampart still improve your damage reduction... and foresight sucked already anyways.
    2. Stop being like our eastern friends and keep thinking on the 'traditional' side of roles. Your new job is to intercept, either give DPS a hard time doing their job or expose your healers to DPS through bind/stunlock/full swing.
    3. Flash gives off blind, most twinks forego accuracy in trade of more DPS stats, so their accuracy is already borederline piss-poor.
    4. Cover forces physical DPS to target you. You can bulwark this to throw shield swipe at them back to further stop their DPS.

    There, four points to why a tank is usefull. Get at me.
    1) No one focuses you so not really a point.

    2) "either give DPS a hard time doing their job or expose your healers to DPS through bind/stunlock/full swing"
    This doesn't make grammatical sense.

    3) Accuracy isn't needed in PVP. Because its already capped.
    Stacking a stat that is needed in a very situational circumstance isn't very useful.

    4) yay cover.

    Go MRD or GTFO,
    You have been gotten at.
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  2. #82
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logo View Post
    3) Accuracy isn't needed in PVP. Because its already capped.
    Stacking a stat that is needed in a very situational circumstance isn't very useful.
    Accuracy and chance to miss are 2 very different things.
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    XI: Zeroblade, Titan Server

  3. #83
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    Alistaire's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    Accuracy and chance to miss are 2 very different things.
    That's probably not gonna spell it out for Logo considering they'd post like that.

    To properly spell it out: Blind or various buffs (attunement, featherfoot etc) give a chance to miss in pvp that overrides the statement about accuracy not being a factor.
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    idk, man, one of the first things I noticed my first day in wolves den was "oh hey, that protect animation that happens when you get hit by things protect helps against isn't going off, maybe it doesn't help here".
    The Protect animation does still go off in Frontlines

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  5. #85
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    Ter'vin Valash
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gor View Post
    The Protect animation does still go off in Frontlines
    ^

    Like I said. Misleading. :P

    Quote Originally Posted by Logo View Post
    4) yay cover.

    Go MRD or GTFO,
    I could go MRD, or I could Cover that BLM near me so that I can watch him freecast a few aoes while I stun the healers, wiping almost the entire enemy team that's gathered near that flag over there. :3

    MRD can go do their single target burst. I'll just fulfill every BLM's wet PvP dream whenever Cover is off CD.
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    idk, man, one of the first things I noticed my first day in wolves den was "oh hey, that protect animation that happens when you get hit by things protect helps against isn't going off, maybe it doesn't help here".
    Protect animation also shows in i80 Sync Wolves' Den

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  7. #87
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    Thera Logo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    That's probably not gonna spell it out for Logo considering they'd post like that.

    To properly spell it out: Blind or various buffs (attunement, featherfoot etc) give a chance to miss in pvp that overrides the statement about accuracy not being a factor.
    What your talking about would fall under "situational".
    Thanks for trying though.
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  8. #88
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    Geologo's Avatar
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    Anyway up to me they should just make those ability being useful, I hate pointless skill, with more skill you can do more things and it make all harder.
    And also I think that tanks are still a little less useful than other classes, absolutely NOT unuseful, but for paladin I would like to see more protection skills for other players (Like tetsudo).
    I absolutely agree with the "Tank can't simply aim to tank in PvP", in my opinion for that I aim to give them another "role", not a random DPS-like role. >-<
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  9. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logo View Post
    What your talking about would fall under "situational".
    Thanks for trying though.
    You're welcome. You're also wrong. You might want to look up what situational means.
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