How are you handling your Novus upgrade?

[winsock]

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Lol cause loadstone changes the way math works? Ur deflecting.

I'll try to explain one more time.
What you were measuring:
How much of the hps is made of mind and how much of the hps is made of det.

What you should be measuring:
How much det and equivalent ss for ilvl increase hps from a baseline.

As a stat in general there are other things to consider. SS has nearly null impact on hots, dots, and insta-casts. Cooldowns can make up for lack of ss. The 0.04s from novus compared to a 2.5s base cast, 2 full mins of chain casting would not even equate to 1 additional cast

[Grotesque]

Lol cause loadstone changes the way math works? Ur deflecting.

I'll try to explain one more time.
What you were measuring:
How much of the hps is made of mind and how much of the hps is made of det.

What you should be measuring:
How much det and equivalent ss for ilvl increase hps from a baseline.

As a stat in general there are other things to consider. SS has nearly null impact on hots, dots, and insta-casts. Cooldowns can make up for lack of ss. The 0.04s from novus compared to a 2.5s base cast, 2 full mins of chain casting would not even equate to 1 additional cast

Novus alone not. A SS-focused build by wearing complete HA is noticeable. As with any other secondary stat, it gets its weigth by stacking a build around it. And Novus / HA Weapon deliver their part greatly.

[winsock]

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Novus in particular is an exception because the stats don't have weight considerations in relation to the total number of secondary points.

Consider 44 points spent:
44 ss
Vs
31 det + 13 ss.

The det option has higher burst, higher hps, better hots + dots, and better mp efficiency, and misses out on ~0.03 reduction in cast time. Both options still allow 31 more points to be chosen.

[Grotesque]

Novus in particular is an exception because the stats don't have weight considerations in relation to the total number of secondary points.

Consider 44 points spent:
44 ss
Vs
31 det + 13 ss.

The det option has higher burst, higher hps, better hots + dots, and better mp efficiency, and misses out on ~0.03 reduction in cast time. Both options still allow 31 more points to be chosen.

Yes, but on the other side if the cast must be aborted because you have to move, you have exactly 0 benefit. I have a good number of occassions where I can get a cast out now which I coudn't do in past. That's far more valuable (especially solo healing first phase of T9) than infinitessimal higher heals.

[Staris]

Lol cause loadstone changes the way math works? Ur deflecting.


As a stat in general there are other things to consider. SS has nearly null impact on hots, dots, and insta-casts. Cooldowns can make up for lack of ss. The 0.04s from novus compared to a 2.5s base cast, 2 full mins of chain casting would not even equate to 1 additional cast

If megaflare is coming in 10 seconds and I have to stone skin 4, because an extra person because they just ate some damage, that .04 seconds lets me get it off before flare compared to not having it. 2.5 vs 2.46 for example.

Your 1 additional cast is meaningless because most encounters its about timing abilities not about how many you can cast. But you wouldn't understand this having done zero relevant challenging encounters in the game.

How does det help me with that stoneskin?

[winsock]

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I'll start by saying I'm glad ur giving examples and appreciate the discussion. I'm not opposed to changing my mind, but have yet to see the value in ss.

As for your example, your scenario is wrong. The base cast time of stoneskin is 3 seconds, but I understand what you're trying to say so I'll rearrange the scenario. Let's say 12 seconds to cast stoneskin on 4 ppl.

My problem with ss is that the benefit requires pretty specific/random-ish circumstances while the det benefit is nearly every time you heal or dps (I view ss in a similar light as crit).

For example, say you only needed to stoneskin 1-3 in 12s instead of 4. The scenario only works in your favor if you can't cast any sooner, you've already blown swiftcast, and you've already blown PoM. You could go the entire fight having lower heals and mp efficiency, without ever running into this very specific scenario.