How are you handling your Novus upgrade?

[Kelya]

As a WHM, I'll go 44 SS + 31 PIE.

SS is a personal choice. For me DET - supposing you add 100 point on this stat, you gain like less than 60 healing points on a Cure II - is the most useless stat (even if 100 points DET gave 100 healing points on Cure II, it doesn't change anything when your cast doesn't save your target). Mainly I stand for SS for the GCD reduction and for the target switching that is faster.

And PIE because when you start to maximize SS, you begin to burst your MP at least 10% or 20% faster than any WHM without any SS gear.

So PIE is complementary to SS in this case.

Finnaly, on others pieces of stuff, if I can get some crit it's a bonus too. I think having a base crit can help, but not having too much for the reasons a lot of ppl explained earlier.

[Yonko]

As a WHM, I'll go 44 SS + 31 PIE.

SS is a personal choice. For me DET - supposing you add 100 point on this stat, you gain like less than 60 healing points on a Cure II - is the most useless stat (even if 100 points DET gave 100 healing points on Cure II, it doesn't change anything when your cast doesn't save your target). Mainly I stand for SS for the GCD reduction and for the target switching that is faster.

And PIE because when you start to maximize SS, you begin to burst your MP at least 10% or 20% faster than any WHM without any SS gear.

So PIE is complementary to SS in this case.

Finnaly, on others pieces of stuff, if I can get some crit it's a bonus too. I think having a base crit can help, but not having too much for the reasons a lot of ppl explained earlier.

You do realize it takes like 100SS to see even .01 second off your cast right? The fact that you say DET is useless because it wont increase your healing enough but you want to put 44 points into SS which won't even cause a noticeable increase in your casting speed.

But it is your weapon put whatever you'd like on it.

[Yonko]

Man, with all the readings, I'm more confused than anything.

Curtana Novus (should I max ACC or Parry first?)
Shield Novus (currently have 9 Parry on it, max 13) Should I get 13 ACC to max the shield?

Now, I don't have the Noct Lorica yet (sand of time in progress )

ACC 497, Det 243, Def 766, Parry 506, Att power 384, SSpeed 389.

STR 384, DEX 192, VIT 558.

I am far from T9, T5 needed to clear. So High Allangan out for a while.

ACC-Parry Max or not? If so, Parry or ACC?

Det (Mine is so low, would it even be worth it?)

I want to be able to hit (with food I can tackle the 519 for T9, but I am planning for the future), maintain aggro, changing armor more than weapon.

What would you guys think?

Thanks in advance; don't want to screw it up even if I can redo it later $$$ no thank you.

Thinking maybe ask in the tank forum and not the healer one?

[Kelya]

You do realize it takes like 100SS to see even .01 second off your cast right?

You do realize you're totally incorrect ?

Please, when you don't know what you're talking about, don't talk. Because 0,01 second of reduction needs only 10-11 SS points, and not 100 SS.

The result is, I'm playing with a GCD of 2,25 second instead of 2,5s, and a 1,8s cast instead of 2s. If I put my 44 SS on the Novus, I gain 0,04s more. This means I almost reach the 1,75s time cast.

Then, you can think it's not worth it, but I do (as I said, it's a personal choice).

Don't tell wrong infos at least

[winsock]

The result is, I'm playing with a GCD of 2,25 second instead of 2,5s, and a 1,8s cast instead of 2s. If I put my 44 SS on the Novus, I gain 0,04s more. This means I almost reach the 1,75s time cast.

Then, you can think it's not worth it, but I do (as I said, it's a personal choice).

Don't tell wrong infos at least

IMO SS isn't a good choice. Heals per sec is going be slightly worse and so is mp per heal.

The way I see it, you only benefit if very, very specific conditions are met:
* the target would have died in the if the heal was four to five hundredths of a second later
And
* benediction / swiftcast (and pom in some cases) are on cooldown
* weren't able to anticipate and cast early (or stoneskin in some cases)

The only thing you really requirement to benefit from the det:
* you didn't over heal.

[Kelya]

For the assumed MP issues you just need to stack a little more PIE than on others gears because it's complementary to SS. Then, if you're good enough, you won't have MP issues. I always hear the same problem with the PT for the dps but actually if you're good enough you can pass through this constraint. Just need to practice and adapt.

And healing faster means fulling up the target's HP faster, so you would need less Swifcast or Benediction to save your target, cause you'll always be healing faster your target and preventing her from getting into a tense/critical situation much more.

But ofc, you need a lot of SS to see the effects of it, I won't say the contrary and it's the same for the others stat anyway.

[Nicobo]

I think most ppl would question to have SS and PIE for whm Novus
because a lot of posts said that the effect of SS is completely sorry, some even said it needs a fix ^^;
therefore I guess first they will drop SS, then maybe drop PIE as for complementary to drop SS (?)

[Karatecatgrl]

Can you meld all 4 stats to your novus???
Otherwise det then split between crit and spell speed

[Grotesque]

IMO SS isn't a good choice. Heals per sec is going be slightly worse and so is mp per heal.

HPS is a virtual value with no relevant meaning and that slight difference on MP per heal because you didn't choose Det is so neglictible. Keylas thoughts are the same as mine and they're practically relevant, the faster the heal is out of your crook the better. I'll also go 33 PIE and 41 SS and wanna have a SS / PIE focused build.
Well people will quesion it because some theorycrafters computed that you have a slightly higher HPS with DET instead of SS, which is right. However, HPS is no relevant value. +-75 heal on a cure 2 doesn't make or break the game (otherwise the mistake happened before) but getting a heal out 0.25 faster than normal is a speed increase of roughly 12,5% in case of Cure 1/2. Use your own brain, and question when others pray something as ultimate wisdom.

At the end of the day, there aren't big differences at all it's just a matter of personal taste, as long as all ppl stay alive your job is done, doesn't matter how you reached this goal. And don't forget, the HA Weapon has SS+PIE also

[winsock]

Use your own brain, and question when others pray something as ultimate wisdom.

I was giving my opinion about the utility offered by a stat in a videogame. There's no need to be rude. I don't understand why you feel insulted.


The ss on thyrus would improve your time by about 0.04 or 0.05 depending on where your ss is at to being with. You only benefit from it your target would have otherwise died 0.04-0.05 seconds after your cast, and if you couldn't otherwise blow a cooldown. I don't think I've ever been in a situation where I'm cutting it so close that I wish I would have casted 0.04 seconds sooner.

You constantly benefit from det so long as you're not over healing (as a side note, the weight of secondary stats to item level is better with det and pie)

I don't see how HA having ss is relevant at all to a discussion about novus. If anything ss on HA is a reason to go out of your way to get novus.